OMG OK now I want a mirror SG1
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x09 - "Terra Firma, Part 1"
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I've worked in theater. As a lighting/sound technician. So I know the real leader is The Director. And the Director said anyone who kills their co-actors will die.
Are we still talking about the MU? Or is this the PU?
In the PU you just die. In the MU you get the booth first, then die later.
I’m talking about MU Airiam...
Not out of character for a MU person to do, plus it explains why she wasn’t on the shuttle with him. Just a potential theory.
A tentative 6 from me. The scene with Carl and the part with Georgiou and mirror Saru are the only reasons I didn't go for a lower grade. Some nice bits, and the dance scene was memorable for its visual style, but overall I am rather done with the mirror universe. It's the creative choice to go there again more than the episode itself that irks me. I just don't find the casual brutality and endless machinations fun or engaging to watch. The DS9 installments of the MU at least gave us a few sympathetic characters there, but there are none for me here. Not even Georgiou, who will likely come out of the other end ready to be ported off to the Section 31 set and somehow 'redeemed' from all that she has done. The character was an interesting foil for our heroes to play off of, someone to stir the pot every now and again, but to me never really fit in with the rest of the crew. She stayed because of Burnham, and while she may have grown to respect the others to a degree, I never got the feeling she grew to *like* them. Her presence on the ship interests me in so far that it provides a contrast for the other characters, besides the obvious stellar acting by Michelle Yeoh. And so that doesn't leave me with any characters to root for in this purely MU setting, knowing that the fates of the other MU characters don't really matter in the narrative of season 3, which is again largely put on hold this week.
The nod to the Kelvin timeline I can appreciate for throwing a bone to the fans of those movies, but I do not count myself among them. Likewise, the fact that Georgiou is somehow unique in being only the second person to survive travel both between different timelines and different eras within the same timeline glosses over quite a bit, even if we can explain away the rest as 'the Federation simply doesn't have records of it'. Prime Spock has already been mentioned above, but we can also ask how Tasha Yar survived long enough to give birth to Sela... it was a complication that might have been avoided with a different cause for her illness.
I am gathering from the replies up the thread that this might be a minority opinion, I've seen terms like 'exciting' and 'sexy' go by. I'm glad to hear it, but I'll also be glad once this story is over.
The nod to the Kelvin timeline I can appreciate for throwing a bone to the fans of those movies, but I do not count myself among them. Likewise, the fact that Georgiou is somehow unique in being only the second person to survive travel both between different timelines and different eras within the same timeline glosses over quite a bit, even if we can explain away the rest as 'the Federation simply doesn't have records of it'. Prime Spock has already been mentioned above, but we can also ask how Tasha Yar survived long enough to give birth to Sela... it was a complication that might have been avoided with a different cause for her illness.
I am gathering from the replies up the thread that this might be a minority opinion, I've seen terms like 'exciting' and 'sexy' go by. I'm glad to hear it, but I'll also be glad once this story is over.
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We've already got Anubis, complete with newspaper
I gave this episode a 9/10.
The MU was one of the highlights of S1 so it’s an absolute delight to see Emperor Georgiou return to her own universe again. Her experiences in the PU have changed her profoundly – although in the previous episodes she did her very best to prove the exact opposite.
The way she desperately hopes for some kind of reconciliation with MU Burnham and how she saved MU Saru’s life… Beautiful!
I love Michelle Yeoh’s portrayal of Georgiou so I’m really looking forward to her own series. Her whole character arc somehow reminds me of Xena – the evil warrior princess turned good. No doubt she’ll get her own sidekick to keep her on the right track.
The MU was one of the highlights of S1 so it’s an absolute delight to see Emperor Georgiou return to her own universe again. Her experiences in the PU have changed her profoundly – although in the previous episodes she did her very best to prove the exact opposite.
The way she desperately hopes for some kind of reconciliation with MU Burnham and how she saved MU Saru’s life… Beautiful!
I love Michelle Yeoh’s portrayal of Georgiou so I’m really looking forward to her own series. Her whole character arc somehow reminds me of Xena – the evil warrior princess turned good. No doubt she’ll get her own sidekick to keep her on the right track
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This was unbelievably awful. What a waste of time.
I’m glad for the cast that they got to have more fun being evil again.
As a recovered Prime and Mirror Georgiou stan - just kill her off all ready. This is getting embarrassing. Good grief.
I’m glad for the cast that they got to have more fun being evil again.
As a recovered Prime and Mirror Georgiou stan - just kill her off all ready. This is getting embarrassing. Good grief.
"I know everything... Everything!..For a price..."We need Mirror Sergeant Schultz now.
I’m talking about MU Airiam...
Not out of character for a MU person to do, plus it explains why she wasn’t on the shuttle with him. Just a potential theory.
Oh Yes that would fit Mirror Airiam to a T sorry
Dont they take a Kelpian away to be made into soup in part I
Yes they do..... Fresh soup
Oops! That's a flub-up on my part. I had laser-focused tunnel vision in that post. I was focusing on the depiction of the Kelpians actually being eaten on-screen. That's where my mind was. But "He's going to be eaten but we didn't see it!" probably comes across like Bill Clinton's, "I smoked but I didn't inhale!"
Maybe they can make it work to serve the story in Part II. If everyone's feasting on Kelpian except Georgiou who can only think of Captain Saru and thinks to herself, "I can't do this."
To be fair in the pilot episode for Star Trek Discovery, Saru did say his people were effectively "cows".
Was a 9 for me. Great acting and really interesting developments.
By the way, the Quinn vibes i already got when i just read about this episode only got stronger when i watched it
By the way, the Quinn vibes i already got when i just read about this episode only got stronger when i watched it
Those two only time traveled to the past which spawned into a new/old timeline.
My take is temporal shields don’t protect people from temporal erasure, it makes them stick to the new “prime” timeline instead of sticking to their original timeline. That means all those people “erased” by the Krenim temporal weapon were just in a different universes, and the weapon’s mechanics weren’t fully understood. That also means temporal and universal leaps are inextricably linked at a certain level, and become distinct only past a divergence point.
I don’t care for the episode either. It has some interesting stuff but it’s a complete diversion from the Burn plot in a season with no time for filler.
This is the second (third?) episode in a row without sending a ship to investigate the Burn origin point, and where the Admiral goes uninformed, this time explicitly. For all we know he doesn’t know about the successful triangulation, to say nothing of the messages.
Saru's sister traveled through a Primeval Anomaly, and now she has a different name and memories.
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