Same actors with different haircuts.
Spoilers What’s in the nebula?
- Thread starter Eric Bean
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OK cool saves costs
No real point in casting other actors.
Yes, actually, we do.
In the Ent-J timeline, the Delphic Expanse was so huge it covered like a quarter of the known galaxy. That was an alternate timeline where the Sphere Builders were never defeated.
When ENT wrapped up that arc, the SBs not only were defeated, but the Expanse was destroyed - in the 22nd century.
Now of course this doesn't mean there won't be an Enterprise-J. If one turns up, it might even look like the one from the episode. But it doesn't have to. When the Expanse was destroyed, the whole future - up to and including the lineage of Enterprises - changed. There may be more Enterprises now, or there may be fewer. If we see one, it may resemble the J, or perhaps look nothing like it. Anything's possible.
...FWIW, the future in which the Sphere Builders had to be fought in the 26th century was one where time wars appeared rampant. Might explain the presence of "anachronistic" ship designs in the battle itself, too. Perhaps talking about "timelines" during the period in which the time wars manifest is futile to begin with, and reality jumps from the 25th to the 31st century without bothering to be continuous in between?
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
Couple of ideas I'm tossing around based on the trailer for next week and the rumour that the
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- Discovery itself, but somehow going there to find the cause of the Burn in turn causes it. It's a paradox of Burnham importance.
- an early TNG era ship or something else with fanwank potential. Maybe something from the background of an earlier show that disappeared or was unaccounted for.
Guardian of Forever is involved which suggests time travel
- Discovery itself, but somehow going there to find the cause of the Burn in turn causes it. It's a paradox of Burnham importance.
- an early TNG era ship or something else with fanwank potential. Maybe something from the background of an earlier show that disappeared or was unaccounted for.
I know what's in the nebula.
Spock's Brain
Spock's Brain
I think discovery is there. The crew goes on the other discovery at one point in the future and sends back the own discovery into the past.
Discovery has the job to find out what happens during the burn and illegally jumps back in time.
Then discovery waits in the nebula until the crew on discovery comes.
During this time the short trek between season 1 and 2 happens.
Discovery has the job to find out what happens during the burn and illegally jumps back in time.
Then discovery waits in the nebula until the crew on discovery comes.
During this time the short trek between season 1 and 2 happens.
As others have said, it's got to be the Discovery. Duplicated in some way. It's the only way to reconcile Short Trek Calypso isn't it?
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Just ignore the incongruities?
Yup. Not everything needs to align perfectly.
I think that any incongruities could be handled with an offhand line about splintered realities, pocket universes, etc. if Calypso Discovery was in a nebula as part of a reality that branched slightly from the Prime reality and the crew never came back / it was never rediscovered.....then that pocket universe / branched reality may cease. I’m not an expert on temporal mechanics or multi dimensional physics.
Quantum duplicate. Simple, refers to past Trek and we can move on.
Not exactly. I've heard suggestions that in "Calypso", the crew is still on the ship, watching Craft, hoping he'll lead them to [something].
We can be fairly sure it's not the ISS Discovery, because that ship was destroyed (offscreen) during the Klingon War.
Excuse me...I didn't get the terminology quite right. This is what Voyager experienced.
Cool read. Somehow I missed that episode of Voyager.
Craft was there a LONG time for the crew to just be hiding. I also see a moral quandary for Zora. She developed feelings for Craft and if it was all subterfuge I could see that causing ethical issues.
With millions of unsold copies of it's book, "I Am Not Spock's Brain"
If there is a copy of Discovery, it could have happened in the wormhole, when the ship encountered the gravitational hibbedy-jibbety that caused it to be a year late. The ship we've been seeing came out a year after Burnham and the copy didn't travel forward in time at all, but stayed in the nebula for 1000 years.
