Being a moderate centrist gets you banned in /r/StarTrekDiscovery

[Sci-fi fan]

I told them that's pretty fascist that a character requires others to speak in a certain way. Of course they came back with the fascism of a lifelong ban since fascism goes with fascism.

 

[DarthTimon]

They asked, they didn't demand. There's no harm whatsoever in respecting their wishes.

 

[Sci-fi fan]

They asked, they didn't demand. There's no harm whatsoever in respecting their wishes.

The harm is when you do speak the way you want and they consider it wrong. That automatically makes it totalitarian by definition because they effectively pressure you to change the way you SPEAK.
I know it's hard to escape the propaganda of the extremist left about it but trust me: within 2 to 10 years at most censorship of that sort will return to be considered ridiculous by most again.

 

[DarthTimon]

The harm is when you do speak the way you want and they consider it wrong. That automatically makes it totalitarian by definition because they effectively pressure you to change the way you SPEAK.
I know it's hard to escape the propaganda of the extremist left about it but trust me: within 2 to 10 years at least censorship of that sort will return to be considered ridiculous and wrong by most again.

So... Respecting someone's wishes is wrong, deliberately defying them when it costs you nothing to respect them is absolutely ok, and no one should object to such behaviour?

 

[Sci-fi fan]

So... Respecting someone's wishes is wrong, deliberately defying them when it costs you nothing to respect them is absolutely ok, and no one should object to such behaviour?

That's the fascism talking again: nobody told you someone is out to attack them: that's a strawman argument by definition. What many people that don't accept the extremist left view say is that you have no right to demand how others SPEAK because that's censorship by definition and obviously totalitarian and fascistic (and since you obviously get irritated when the censorship does not go through you support that nonsense).
In order for this to not be fascism is to first ask and then not be irritated when someone continues talking the way they want but since those people get offended (and often end up to lifelong bans (as if they punish the worst crimes imaginable)) we are not talking about "asking" but about totalitarianism.

 

[DarthTimon]

That's the fascism talking again: nobody told you someone is out to attack them: that's a strawman argument by definition. What many people that don't accept the extremist left view say is that you have no right to demand how others SPEAK because that's censorship by definition and obviously totalitarian and fascistic (and since you obviously get irritated when the censorship does not go through you support that nonsense).
In order for this to not be fascism is to first ask and then not be irritated when someone continues talking the way they want but since those people get offended (and often end up to lifelong bans (as if they punish the worst crimes imaginable)) we are not talking about "asking" but about totalitarianism.

If someone asked (much as what happened in the episode) for you to use certain pronouns, and you knew full-well they'd find it offensive if you then didn't, who would be in the wrong?

 

[Jinn]

@Tosk gets bragging rights on the correct prediction. I didn't think it would happen, with the last thread being closed, but here we are.

 

[Lord Garth]

A "moderate centrist" is someone who doesn't want to make any waves. That's why they're moderate centrist. So if you don't want to make waves with people, respect how they want to be referred to as.

 

[cultcross]

@Sci-fi fan your other transphobic thread was closed and I do not expect to see another. So, in the words of totalitarianism everywhere, thread closed.