Spoilers The Mandalorian season 2 discussion

[Reverend]

Incidentally, in case anyone was wondering what a live action Ahsoka would have looked like in the Clone Wars, look no further...(yes, that's a 15 year old Rosario Dawson in her screen debut.)

I don’t know much about this character except she came from one of the animated series.

But I’m wondering the in universe explanation for if more Jedi survived the purge, where were they during the OT?

But then the Death Star was enough to get Obiwan into it and not the others?

And when Yoda said “No, there is another”, he left out “And a handful of other memorable people just in hiding, we could try recruiting them too!”

Vader and his Inquisitors hunted most of them down. Those that stayed hidden probably tried to put that life behind them, abandoned the force, the code, all of it.
There are stories about Jedi that survived the initial purge. Most of those that tried to remain as Jedi but were eventually killed, as were some that tried to settle down and have a normal life. Others like Ahsoka were a little more successful at staying off the radar. Some are still kind of up in the air right now.

I think the general notion is that when Yoda said Luke would be the last of the Jedi, he was being very literal. As in the last adherent to the Jedi faith and last member of the Order. Others that had been Jedi might still be alive elsewhere out there, but they weren't Jedi anymore. Even Ahsoka doesn't count herself as being a member of the Order any longer, for reasons I won't spoil.

Some may have been active in some capacity or another, but their stories never intersected Luke's (it is a big galaxy), or maybe they did. It's a big galaxy. Some may have had less than zero interest in getting into another galaxy wide conflict given how swimmingly last one went down.
Either way, we're talking about a scant handful of people at most, scattered among a million worlds.

 

[137th Gebirg]

So, something puzzled me about something that Ahsoka said - she mentioned she only knew one other of the child’s people, Yoda.

Did she not know Yaddle when they were both on the Jedi Council?

 

[cooleddie74]

Yaddle left the Council years before Anakin took a Padawan. In the old EU she died before the events of AOTC so either way Ahsoka would never have known her.

 

[tomalak301]

I'm currently watching Clone Wars for the first time. I thought this episode would spoil a lot of it for me. It did the exact opposite. It made me motivated to continue that show to see how we get from Ahsoka the teenager padawan of Anakin Skywalker, to Ahsoka, master jedi and total and complete badass. This episode was incredible, and Grogou is a nice name. Man, I don't know who Thrawn is, but I'm excited to find out.

 

[137th Gebirg]

IMO, one of the best adversaries that came out of the EU. If you want to see him in action, watch the Star Wars Rebels animated series. IIRC, he was the only non-human to ever hold the title of Grand Admiral in the Imperial Fleet - Palpy had a thing about that, being, y’know, Palpy.

His big thing is to study the art of a particular target culture in order to acquire a strategic advantage to his goals.

 

[Noname Given]

I've got to disagree with you here, I think the way they've been handling the Clone Wars and Rebels characters has been perfect. They are giving plenty of context for the people who haven't seen the earlier shows to understand who they are, all you really need to know about them is right there, but at the same time they are continuing their arcs for those of us who followed the animated series. You don't really need to know all of Bo-Katan's history to follow The Heiress, all you need know is that she is a Mandalorian from a different group from Din, and that's exactly what we see in the episode. All of the stuff about her and her sister, and her history with Death Watch, and the Darksaber, are nice bits of backstory, but aren't necessary to follow her story in the episode. There was the bit about her searching for Gideon and the Darksaber, but that was such a minor part of the episode that I can't really see it really bothering people who aren't familiar with her history. All they needed to know is that she has a reason to be after Gideon, the whole backstory isn't that important.
And for The Jedi, all we need to know about Ahsoka is that she was a Jedi. All of the stuff with Anakin, and her time as Fulcrum, and her search for Thrawn and Ezra are just nice bits of backstory, but aren't necessary to follow her story in the episode. There was the Thrawn reference, but I don't think that would really bother people, it's pretty clear from context alone that this is someone she has history with, the details of that history really aren't important to the episode.

As someone who is exactly as you described (IR yes I've seen all the Star Wars films (Saw the original Star Wars in 1977 at the age of 14 and loved it); and have seen all the live-action stuff but pretty much steered clear of Clone Wars and Rebels because for me the few episodes that I took a look at really didn't grab our interest me); your analysis is spot on.

I think the last three episodes of the Mandalorian have been some of the most enjoyable live-action Star Wars for me I've seen since the original trilogy of films. Even though I didn't know the back stories of these characters; their motivations were clear, And what they mentioned of or from their storylines in the animated series still made sense for the characters in the context of those episodes and didn't confuse me in any way. It was obvious from the opening that there were some sort of history between Ahsoka Tano and the Magistrate running the town; so when she asked for the location of Admiral Thrawn (whomever he is or was), It made sense. YMMV

One thing I really enjoyed is that they actually show why Veskar armor is so prized. So there actually is a metal that can deflect blaster shots, as well as be used effectively against lightsaber wielding Jedis. You can definitely understand why the Empire decided to invade Mandalore since they seem to have a large supply of the metal and definitely know how to work it into armor and weapons that are highly effective.

 

[maneth]

After a somewhat sticky start, the second season is getting better and better. Rosario Dawson's awesome as Ahsoka Tano.

 

[Xerxes82]

But then the Death Star was enough to get Obiwan into it and not the others?

And when Yoda said “No, there is another”, he left out “And a handful of other memorable people just in hiding, we could try recruiting them too!”

A certain point of view. Technically, Ahsoka, despite being fully trained, is NOT a Jedi. She was expelled from the order, unjustly. And when they offered to let her back in, and knight her in the process, she refused. So she's both a fully trained Jedi Knight, and simultaneously not a Jedi.

They have introduced a number of Jedi who survived Order 66 in comics and cartoons. Nearly all of them are dead by the time of Yavin. The Darth Vader comics are littered with the corpses of those Vader and the Inquisitors have hunted down. And Rebels dispatched their properly knighted Jedi by the end, which both fit the story they were telling and happened to leave Luke as the only official Jedi. Others we have parts of story on, but nothing to explain where they might have been during the OT.

The only two known exceptions active at the time of the Death Star were Ahsoka, who had identified Vader as her former master but had also had some experiences that I think justify her more or less staying out of things during the OT, and Ezra Bridger, from Rebels. Who was never formally knighted as a Jedi, and had, by the time of the OT, gone missing. He remains as such, as far as we know.

Cal Kestis, from the Jedi Fallen Order game remains unaccounted for, though his game falls early enough in the Imperial period that there is plenty of time to take him off the board before Yavin. Either killed off or walking away from the Jedi as an order. (The ingredients are all there for either avenue by the game's end, and that's assuming they don't have something else up their sleeve for sequels.)

And there is Quinlan Vos. An old EU piece of work who survived the Clone Wars in that old take, and who was brought back into canon via the Clone Wars cartoon. We don't know if he survived Order 66 this time around, but it feels likely, as the PTB have more or less tried to stay true to the idea of Quinlan Vos as a character, if not the specifics. Which would leave him unaccounted for as well. Though, again, in his case there is a strong argument to be made for just walking away from the Jedi altogether, given what he's been through. (Though in my personal head canon, and until proven otherwise, I like to think that he survived Order 66, ultimately settled down and had a proper family, and then died at Vader's hand while managing to keep his wife/kid hidden from the Empire. Which would mean there is a Vos running around out there somewhere for somebody to play with later. Alas, I may be the only fan who would love to see that story.)

 

[Gordie]

Rosario Dawson was awesome as Ahsoka Tano. Truly loved the character. And of course, Michael Beihn having an appearance was cool too.

 

[Saul]

My review of the episode?

Ho li fuk.

Don't need to say more but I couldn't believe it until I saw it. And the mention of Thrawn.... icing on the cake.

 

[plynch]

I watched this episode and enjoyed without knowing who are all these people.

Am I a bad person? There is something wrong with me?

Right, I have no idea what a Thrawn is, or where it was alluded to. (Not asking, by the way.) The showrunners' including these characters is not offputting though, as with no knowledge of backstory, I love this series.

 

[JoeZhang]

Thrawn is the only one I know from reading the books many years ago.

 

[wayoung]

Right, I have no idea what a Thrawn is, or where it was alluded to.

I believe it is an ocean crustacean, often bbq'd in Australia.

 

[Starfury]

But then the Death Star was enough to get Obiwan into it and not the others?

And when Yoda said “No, there is another”, he left out “And a handful of other memorable people just in hiding, we could try recruiting them too!”

Ahsoka wasn't hiding, she was out of the picture. She might or might not have skipped a couple of years, do to her stunt in the World between worlds (it isn't exaclty clear), but even if she didn't she was still left strandet on a Planet with a strong connection to the dark side, which might have shielded her from other force wielders and she had no Starship to leave the planet on her own. Ezra went MIA in Hyperspace.

 

[Saul]

Thrawn is the only one I know from reading the books many years ago.

I didn't even read the books but definitely noticed the blue guy on shelves of bookstores in the Science Fiction and Fantasy section for years. Probably the one character non EU readers would know.

 

[wayoung]

Right, I have no idea what a Thrawn is, or where it was alluded to.

Thrawn, when translated from the original German, means "A whales vagina".

 

[KennyB]

Thrawn, when translated from the original German, means "A whales vagina".

Is this a joke or something? Sitting here in Bavaria confused........

 

[wayoung]

Is this a joke or something? Sitting here in Bavaria confused........

You should watch Anchorman. Very funny.

 

[JD]

Cal Kestis, from the Jedi Fallen Order game remains unaccounted for, though his game falls early enough in the Imperial period that there is plenty of time to take him off the board before Yavin. Either killed off or walking away from the Jedi as an order. (The ingredients are all there for either avenue by the game's end, and that's assuming they don't have something else up their sleeve for sequels.)

I think Kal is probably the biggest question mark for me right now. I'm really hoping we get some kind of follow up that reveals his and Cere's fate.

And there is Quinlan Vos. An old EU piece of work who survived the Clone Wars in that old take, and who was brought back into canon via the Clone Wars cartoon. We don't know if he survived Order 66 this time around, but it feels likely, as the PTB have more or less tried to stay true to the idea of Quinlan Vos as a character, if not the specifics. Which would leave him unaccounted for as well. Though, again, in his case there is a strong argument to be made for just walking away from the Jedi altogether, given what he's been through. (Though in my personal head canon, and until proven otherwise, I like to think that he survived Order 66, ultimately settled down and had a proper family, and then died at Vader's hand while managing to keep his wife/kid hidden from the Empire. Which would mean there is a Vos running around out there somewhere for somebody to play with later. Alas, I may be the only fan who would love to see that story.)

I looked on Wookiepedia, and several books and comics have included him on lists of possible survivors, so I think it's pretty likely he did.
There we go, maybe Star Wars Jedi II can have Vos teaming up with Kal and Cere.

 

[KennyB]

You should watch Anchorman. Very funny.

Ohhhhhhh it might have triggered the memory if we had been talking about San Deigo.........or panther urine.