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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x07 - "Unification III"

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I think the stardate (45825) problem can be explained away. What Burnham and Book watched was not a recording made in the Romulus tunnels; it was a speech that Spock made later in 2368 - he just took whole chunks from his talks with Picard as they were so effective.

It was taken from Picard's personal files. Jean Luc must have still had a Borg eye recording the whole thing :borg:
 
Is that a euphemism?

Burnham's pop up? I thought that was Book... :whistle:

I found an issue with the epusode. The mother blurts out that Georgiou was killed at the battle of the Binary Stars. That isn’t supposed to be common knowledge. Most of the crew don’t know that and think she’s just retired.

Yes, I wondered something similar: I get the whole "truth and nothing but..." concept but that does rather blow a massive hole in MU Georgiou's cover in front of the senior leadership of a (currently) non-aligned culture... :vulcan:
 
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Not to mention the crew. Poor Linus has been thinking he’s been talking to captain Georgiou all this time.
 
Apparently the subtitles say "SB..." not "SP..." -- I picked up on the wrong transcription back up the thread.

I suspect there may not be any clever meaning to the designation "SB-19." Likely it's just a bunch of letters and numbers that sounded good when they were writing that story.
 
Apparently the subtitles say "SB..." not "SP..." -- I picked up on the wrong transcription back up the thread.

I suspect there may not be any clever meaning to the designation "SB-19." Likely it's just a bunch of letters and numbers that sounded good when they were writing that story.
I’m wondering if the “S” in SB stands for subspace, if they’re so convinced it caused the Burn (the “B”?)
 
but it really doesn't matter what the analogy is, it's still crap fan-wanky writing.
It is all a big fanwank. Star Trek has misled on a number of issues related to military leadership and command. If you are drawing your notion about what happens in the military because you saw it on Star Trek, you should probably look further. Simply put, rank is not omni supra what determines who can be the CO or XO of a naval vessel. Permantently pushing up the next in line when there is an empty spot was always just a feel good measure for the fans that did not match what tends to happen. There are plenty of contrivances and bad dramatical choices that brought us to the point where Tilly could be considered an XO. I'm more than willing to note what they are. They are the same types of choices that made us feel good about Nog skipping the last two years of the Academy, even thought that's not what really happens. Training matters. Those who don't have it, those who have only been the OOD, don't get to become COs or XOs. (The only real exception is someone who comes from the Merchant Marine out of respect for that branch, but they don't get to command combat vessels.)
 
Don't tell anyone, but a captain does not have to be a captain!
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There is a nautical tradition where Captain is a title that can be temporarily held by the commanding officer of a vessel, irrespective of actual rank.
 
Enjoyable episode overall. I wound up giving it a solid 7. Two things lowered it for me. First the Tilly promotion. Then the way they brought back the mother. Also a minor quibble about Michael withdrawing her claim.

First what I liked? I enjoyed seeing this new Vulcan. I hope we get to see more of it, a LOT more.

I didn't like Tilly moving ahead that fast. Wouldn't star fleet want to weigh in? Its the equivalent to promoting Wesley Crusher to replace Riker in season three of TNG. Would anybody have approved of that?

I don't know how I feel about the Mother. I would not have minded her show up at some point but it sure seems like she's risen through the ranks of this new society quickly. Just feels a bit off to me.

When Michael withdraws her claim she turns around and starts to walk out. Then everybody who was seated stands suddenly at rapt attention as if an admiral had just stepped on to the bridge for the first time. I understand she is the star and the hero character but this is a bit much in my opinion. Why do they have to lay it on that thick?
 
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It was so touching to see Michael learn of Spock's exploits and legacy. Her face and reaction when she first sees the hologram was perfect.

Her Mom seemed kinda randomly shoehorned in and it ended up very token and throwaway and Michael finding her Mom again (or vice versa) ended up no big deal at all. Huh?

Tilly as first officer? They point out how everyone outranks her and this is the showrunner who co-wrote cadet-to-captain Kirk so why not. Better to have an XO brimming with personality than a nameless bridge officer like that guy, or whats-her-name. Curious where it goes. And she was a ruthless captain in another life, soooooo...

Loved Ni'Var, and the evolution of Vulcans and Romulans. Love that they took a poem written by a fan in from Spockanalia in 1967 and renamed the Vulcan planet after it.
 
It is all a big fanwank. Star Trek has misled on a number of issues related to military leadership and command. If you are drawing your notion about what happens in the military because you saw it on Star Trek, you should probably look further. Simply put, rank is not omni supra what determines who can be the CO or XO of a naval vessel. Permantently pushing up the next in line when there is an empty spot was always just a feel good measure for the fans that did not match what tends to happen. There are plenty of contrivances and bad dramatical choices that brought us to the point where Tilly could be considered an XO. I'm more than willing to note what they are. They are the same types of choices that made us feel good about Nog skipping the last two years of the Academy, even thought that's not what really happens. Training matters. Those who don't have it, those who have only been the OOD, don't get to become COs or XOs. (The only real exception is someone who comes from the Merchant Marine out of respect for that branch, but they don't get to command combat vessels.)

This never struck me as being worth worrying about. Will quasi-military organizations centuries in the future necessarily have to do things the way current organizations do? It's not like the current USN handles such matters the way that, say, the Royal Navy of the Napoleonic Wars did.
 
So what happened to Dr. Burnham's red angel suit? Did her Ni'var rescuers destroy it? They're not bound by Federation accords anymore.
 
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