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Spoilers Robert Meyer Burnett: "Terra Firma" will ruin Trek canon

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NCC-73515 said:
And the Federation didn't fall, and wasn't thrown out. Perhaps you should watch things before you criticize them XD
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yes it did. After all the dilithium exploded, which is literally impossible and the biggest piece of bullshit in the franchise, surpassing even the evolve into salamander ship from Voyager, the Federation collapsed. That was stated in the one episode of season 3 I watched before I had to stop or give ino my urge to physically destroy my TV. All that's left is a small group of probably evil people that still call themselves The Federation, but it's obvious that super special Burnham is going to be recreating the Federation as time goes by, either in the future or sometime travel bullshit.

Between the horrible writing, the specific fuck yous to the franchise, and the vomit inducing alien redesigns (those fake andorian design should be eligable for criminal prosecution, its almost as bad as the STD Klingons and tellerites), you couldnt pay me to watch another episode.
 
I like Enterprise a lot, but it's amazing to me that it's now considered "Classic Trek canon", considering the reactions when it was coming out. When I hear Classic Trek, I think of TOS (and maybe TAS and TMP as well). Here's a fairly *light* example of fan concern over Enterprise canon:

""Regeneration" is the strongest evidence I've seen yet that Enterprise must become a reset-button series, in which all the events of the show's run are wiped out in the final episodes. There are just too many inconsistencies with original Trek and TNG canon, otherwise....On the one hand, it's good that the producers can say, "Well, the timeline has been changed so we can do whatever we want." But on the other hand, what's supposed to keep us old-time Trekkies grounded, to make it familiar and logical? I'm a lot more impressed when they manage to get seeming inconsistencies to reconcile -- something Pocket Books' authors have done admirably in the Trek series, especially The Eugenics Wars -- than when timeline disruptions are used as an excuse for rewriting canon. This show's viewership has declined significantly enough that I'd think winning onetime Trek fans back would be a huge priority."

https://www.trektoday.com/reviews/enterprise/regeneration.shtml

There were many more, shall we say, strongly worded reactions regarding whether the series should count as canon.
 
kirk55555 said:
After all the dilithium exploded, which is literally impossible
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It's a fictional element. It does what the story requires of it. But, IIRC it went inert causing ships to explode.
kirk55555 said:
the Federation collapsed. That was stated in the one episode of season 3 I watched before I had to stop or give ino my urge to physically destroy my TV. All that's left is a small group of probably evil people that still call themselves The Federation, but it's obvious that super special Burnham is going to be recreating the Federation as time goes by, either in the future or sometime travel bullshit.
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Batting 0.000 so far on this one too.
 
Hythlodeus said:
the Klingons looked AMAZING!
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The Klingons looked like aliens. That's freaking amazing to do after stagnating for so long as a one note culture.
ScottJ85 said:
hmm yes much like how Kurtzmann DESTROYED Star Trek and replaced it with a fake duplicate!!!
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The conspiracy is real. He's actually just a puppet for Abrams who is trying to get all Star Trek DVDs under his control.
 
ScottJ85 said:
The Klingons looked fine and they didn’t destroy the Federation. The entire first season is about how they didn’t destroy the Federation. Like, that was the entire point.
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the Klingons did not look like Klingons, period. the change between TOS Klingons to TNG and later klingons is less jarring them TNG to STD, and we eventually got an explanation as to why the TOs Klingons look different. the fact that all of the STD Klingons sound like they have marbles in their mouth because of their terrible teeth Prosthetics is bad enough, but they don't look anything like any other Klingon outside of both designs having spiky foreheads.

As for destroying the Federation, that is a reference to season 3 of STD, not season 1.
 
kirk55555 said:
the Klingons did not look like Klingons, period. the change between TOS Klingons to TNG and later klingons is less jarring them TNG to STD, and we eventually got an explanation as to why the TOs Klingons look different. the fact that all of the STD Klingons sound like they have marbles in their mouth because of their terrible teeth Prosthetics is bad enough, but they don't look anything like any other Klingon outside of both designs having spiky foreheads.

As for destroying the Federation, that is a reference to season 3 of STD, not season 1.
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I had no trouble reading them as Klingons.

Also, the Federation still hasn’t been destroyed even by season 3 of DSC. Again, that seems to be the whole point of the season.
 
Hythlodeus said:
not only looked, they FELT like aliens.
I wish they kept the same philosophy of redesigning for the other aliens, but with fanboy backlash as it was, we're here. stuck with minor updates to at least 30 year old designs
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Indeed, yes. That's my huge frustration. I cared very little for the Klingons, as they were very one note. Then Discovery stepped in and gave me some intriguing looks and views on their empire as a whole. And then back to one note.

It's not believable anymore.
 
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