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Poll USS Discovery after retrofit

Will Discovery still be recognizable after 32nd century retrofit?

  • Yes, no exterior changes at all

    Votes: 20 27.0%
  • Mostly, few doohickeys attached

    Votes: 25 33.8%
  • More or less, some recognizable elements will remain

    Votes: 25 33.8%
  • No, complete external makeover

    Votes: 4 5.4%

  • Total voters
    74
I have no confirmation, but I suspect that the -A on the Enterprise was another cost saving measure, because it would be easier to add more paint to the original model than paint an entirely new registry.

They may as well have, the alignment is different because "NCC-1701-A" is wider than "NCC-1701." All the registry numbers on the model would've been entirely removed and reapplied (you can see it clearly in the intro shot; in the first three movies, the registry on the top of the saucer was centered on the "-", but on the A, it's centered on the first "1"). Plus, they would've already had to do more work than reapplying the numbers removing all the battle damage from TSFS.
 
Looking closer at the "A": In addition to the changes to the pylons and the detached nacelles
- different deflector
- various windows are now long strips instead of proper windows
- the nacelles are quite different looking
- the bottom of the secondary hull is different (no box-like structure there now)
- the hull pattern (at least on the saucer)
- the outer ring of the saucer is all but detached as well (with personal transporters, the corridors are less necessary)
- Looks like more phaser banks
- Bridge dome structure is different

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They really are looking to sell more models and toys.
Is it just me, or is the new deflector asymmetric? If so, what is it with their asymmetry fetish? First the uniform collars, then the bottoms of the 32nd century uniform jackets, and now the deflector? All the asymmetry is annoying and it's fucking with my head.
 
Is it just me, or is the new deflector asymmetric? If so, what is it with their asymmetry fetish? First the uniform collars, then the bottoms of the 32nd century uniform jackets, and now the deflector? All the asymmetry is annoying and it's fucking with my head.

We may just be seeing it from an angle in that shot. The lower right part of the hex looks blocked, but I'm sure we'll get better looks at it.
 
All the ships are warp capable. There just isn’t enough dilithium to go around. Which is why all the Starfleet ships are performing emergency duties instead of things like exploration.

What I don’t quite understand is why 32nd century Starfleet isn’t trying to reverse-engineer Discovery’s spore drive and install it on all their ships so that dilithium is moot. Instead they just made Discovery part of their fleet. Maybe someone’s working on that in the background?
It will become important to the story, when it becomes important to the story.
 
All the ships are warp capable. There just isn’t enough dilithium to go around. Which is why all the Starfleet ships are performing emergency duties instead of things like exploration.

What I don’t quite understand is why 32nd century Starfleet isn’t trying to reverse-engineer Discovery’s spore drive and install it on all their ships so that dilithium is moot. Instead they just made Discovery part of their fleet. Maybe someone’s working on that in the background?

Well, we do know Stamets is the only one who can navigate through the Mycelial network because he has Tardigrade DNA.
Though, I would imagine that 32nd century SF would have no need for a biological navigator as their computers should be more than evolved enough for the task.

Also, Tilly and Stamets were told by Saru to build a new interface (and Tilly said she was thinking on using Dark Matter for that) which would allow Discovery to use the Spore Drive without Stamets.

I would surmise that the Spore Drive can easily be replicated by Starfleet and applied to other ships as a standby drive... the only thing they need to do is get the interface functioning (which I suspect will be done by the end of the season).
 
Is it just me, or is the new deflector asymmetric? If so, what is it with their asymmetry fetish? First the uniform collars, then the bottoms of the 32nd century uniform jackets, and now the deflector? All the asymmetry is annoying and it's fucking with my head.
Looks symmetric to me
 
Perhaps Starfleet have also be told of the journey it’s taken to get the spore drive to actually work. Any missteps in trying to replicate the drive could end in once again losing more ships and crew, as what happened on the Glenn. They may not be willing to take the risk just yet.
 
Discovery is just another 32d century ship, if others have spore drive.

A ship doesn't need to have unique tech to make itself distinctive.
The show is called Discovery, so we follow that particular vessel and its crew.
And besides, Disco still has the Sphere Data and Zora... other SF ships may end up getting their own 'ship AI's' too (unless they already have them).
 
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Perhaps Starfleet have also be told of the journey it’s taken to get the spore drive to actually work. Any missteps in trying to replicate the drive could end in once again losing more ships and crew, as what happened on the Glenn. They may not be willing to take the risk just yet.

Replicating the drive is easy enough.
They also know what they need to make it work... Tardigrade DNA (if you want to use a human that is and if the genetic ban could be 'bent' for this particular occasion).
However, its more likely that SF will have the Spore Drive replicated and on standby, but won't use it until the new interface is completed (aka, what Tilly and Stamets were told to do so that Discovery can use the Spore Drive without Stamets).
 
I just remembered that the shuttle in the Saru Short Trek was also different from the one in Disco S2 (Shenzhou instead of Archimedes), so Calypso having a different Disco is not the first retro error in SHO, which is more experimental anyway
 
Unless the spores reject any other attempts.

Spores go on strike for better pay and benefits. News at 11.


I just remembered that the shuttle in the Saru Short Trek was also different from the one in Disco S2 (Shenzhou instead of Archimedes), so Calypso having a different Disco is not the first retro error in SHO, which is more experimental anyway

Zora decided to send the DOT's out and erase the A. Of course there are a lot of other changes not so easily reverted.
 
Programmable matter effects can be easily reversed. Think about that one.. :bolian:
Lol, Calypso is not Prime. Simple as that. It can be Canon, in the same way that Kelvin universe is canon, but it sure as hell ain’t taking place in Prime timeline, that’s for sure.
 
Programmable matter, what could possible go wrong there?


How can Starfleet HQ make the nacelles on the Discovery non-detachable when the Sphere is protecting the ship and wouldn't allow any such structural changes?
How did Starfleet HQ get past the Sphere?
 
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