Poll USS Discovery after retrofit
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Ha. My head read this in Scotty voice
Is "Ample Nacelles" a separate publication?
N/A-celles.
The whole detached nacelles thing just strikes me as one of those creative "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if..." ideas that likely got spitballed around a production meeting and someone went "Yeah, why not -- its sort of futuristic, let's do it"
It's kinda left-field but, heck, it's the 32nd Century -- who knows what the new normal is.
It's hardly the same thing in terms of the magnitude of the physics and engineering involved but, by way of analogy, if you'd told folks back in the '50s / '60s / '70s that they could eventually buy new music recordings and listen them without needing vinyl and a turntable and that everything would come over personalised transmissions to a device roughly the size of a pack of cards which would, in turn, send the signal wirelessly to speakers placed wherever they want them they'd probably think that was crazy too!
It's kinda left-field but, heck, it's the 32nd Century -- who knows what the new normal is.
It's hardly the same thing in terms of the magnitude of the physics and engineering involved but, by way of analogy, if you'd told folks back in the '50s / '60s / '70s that they could eventually buy new music recordings and listen them without needing vinyl and a turntable and that everything would come over personalised transmissions to a device roughly the size of a pack of cards which would, in turn, send the signal wirelessly to speakers placed wherever they want them they'd probably think that was crazy too!
Microwave energy transfer or something. Dont wanna be standing between the ship and the nacelle.
Finally perfected Tesla wireless energy transfer?? 
I wonder what happens if a ship passes through.
Or do they float off on inertia if the power goes down
Maybe I missed something, but isn’t the whole discussion on the detached nacelles and how they are configured moot since none of the 32nd Century ships are warp capable?
Detached nacelles = fins on a Cadillac.
Ooh! Say that in Trip Tucker's voice! Yes!
Ooh! Say that in Trip Tucker's voice! Yes!
All the ships are warp capable. There just isn’t enough dilithium to go around. Which is why all the Starfleet ships are performing emergency duties instead of things like exploration.
What I don’t quite understand is why 32nd century Starfleet isn’t trying to reverse-engineer Discovery’s spore drive and install it on all their ships so that dilithium is moot. Instead they just made Discovery part of their fleet. Maybe someone’s working on that in the background?
Ya I would imagine that this is to be assumed. Even given how dumb SF can be in Trek at times I'm sure they have thought of this
It's possible that the drive is in fact cargo-cult tech, and the doodads invented by Stamets and Straal don't really work. It's the tardigrade DNA doing all the real work, and the eggheads in Vance's team can't figure out any of that by studying the doodads.
Adira... could at best figure out what the drive system was supposed to do. She is unlikely to know how it works, or how to fix it, beyond the usual fiddling with the interfaces.
Timo Saloniemi
Adira... could at best figure out what the drive system was supposed to do. She is unlikely to know how it works, or how to fix it, beyond the usual fiddling with the interfaces.
Timo Saloniemi
I think Discovery is like a Transformer now. Not a joke. We've seen what Book's ship can do.
Already fixed the typo...
Looking closer at the "A": In addition to the changes to the pylons and the detached nacelles
- different deflector
- various windows are now long strips instead of proper windows
- the nacelles are quite different looking
- the bottom of the secondary hull is different (no box-like structure there now)
- the hull pattern (at least on the saucer)
- the outer ring of the saucer is all but detached as well (with personal transporters, the corridors are less necessary)
- Looks like more phaser banks
- Bridge dome structure is different
They really are looking to sell more models and toys.
- different deflector
- various windows are now long strips instead of proper windows
- the nacelles are quite different looking
- the bottom of the secondary hull is different (no box-like structure there now)
- the hull pattern (at least on the saucer)
- the outer ring of the saucer is all but detached as well (with personal transporters, the corridors are less necessary)
- Looks like more phaser banks
- Bridge dome structure is different
They really are looking to sell more models and toys.
I wish there were more models and toys! Shelves are nonexistent with any Discovery items!
The whole registry thing is kind of silly,IMO, something that throws back to STIV but that really is not practical. Naval ships don't repreat the registry numbers of the ships whose names they borrow. They just have a new registry. The first Enterprise aircraft carrier was CV-6; the second CVN-65, the next one will be CVN-80. There are no suffix letters. If simply adds an unnecessary dimension to the registry number. Moveover, at the speeds and distances things happen in the distant future, the registry number does not convery much real meaning--certainly not more than telemetry and sensor readings. Even now, fighter pilots are increasingly using helmet mounted displays rather than direct visual recognition. More combat is being used via a virtual environment. [STRIKEOUT]I have no confirmation, but I suspect that the -A on the Enterprise was another cost saving measure, because it would be easier to add more paint to the original model than paint an entirely new registry.[/STRIKEOUT]
The nacelle thing is neat, but I would say problematic. It might make more sense to use the programmable matter to retract the nacelles into Discovery rather than detach them. It makes sense for Discovery to control its profile better for combat. I don't think the impact of maneuverability is significant. Detaching the nacelles probably would not give it a significant advantage in terms of lost weight and improved speed. Assuming that the ship, even in the 23rd century, is fly by wire, the pilot should not notice any change in performance.
The nacelle thing is neat, but I would say problematic. It might make more sense to use the programmable matter to retract the nacelles into Discovery rather than detach them. It makes sense for Discovery to control its profile better for combat. I don't think the impact of maneuverability is significant. Detaching the nacelles probably would not give it a significant advantage in terms of lost weight and improved speed. Assuming that the ship, even in the 23rd century, is fly by wire, the pilot should not notice any change in performance.
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