Spoilers Season 3 Episode 7 'Unification III' Promo

[Timo]

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Wasn't it retconned that it was the sun in the Hobus system going supernova and not the Romulan sun, with the danger being the subspace shockwave? So the black hole wouldn't have been in the Romulan system.

As said, vice versa. There never was a Hobus anywhere in any movie or episode, but it was in a comic book (that got every other detail wrong, too). PIC then clarified that there's no Hobus, the Romulan homestar blew, and Romulus blew, and it was all known years in advance but the evacuation was messy and the Feds opted out of it.

And none of that amounts to a "change", because on screen nothing ever was different. Only in that silly comic.

Spock's little attempt at actually preventing the kaboom failed, but was a minor sideshow anyway. Perhaps Spock was worried the supernova would eventually hit other star systems, so turning it into a black hole was desirable, even if it meant as certain a death to the (already largely evacuated, poor miners' families notwithstanding) planet as the kaboom itself.

No, the binary system thing won't work - we have seen the system, and it only has one sun. That is, we have seen a diagram revealing this. But in addition, we can see in the 2009 movie that the light on Romulus comes from the star that blew, there being no other light (Nemesis also reveals there is no other light source, FWIW). So it won't really help if some other star survives...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Phily B]

I always liked the theory that some Romulan fuckery led to the supernova happening, which was essentially a precursor to a worse event like a false vacuum.

 

[Khan 2.0]

i expect this ep to:
-reference ST09/possibly Kelvinverse
-Nimoy Spock cameo
-show some TNG/Unification stuff

 

[Yistaan]

No, the binary system thing won't work - we have seen the system, and it only has one sun. That is, we have seen a diagram revealing this. But in addition, we can see in the 2009 movie that the light on Romulus comes from the star that blew, there being no other light (Nemesis also reveals there is no other light source, FWIW). So it won't really help if some other star survives...

Retconning Romulus to be binary wouldn't be the worst thing Trek has done. You're talking about a series that had Q&A and the Cage show completely different bridges within months. Nemesis etc. is just relegated to "older Trek" continuity--Romulus' other sun was always there but never seen, like DOT-7.

Vulcan has no moon etc. despite a massive body clearly being seen in Vulcan's sky as recently as Discovery flashbacks.

 

[fireproof78]

Retconning Romulus to be binary wouldn't be the worst thing Trek has done. You're talking about a series that had Q&A and the Cage show completely different bridges within months. Nemesis etc. is just relegated to "older Trek" continuity--Romulus' other sun was always there but never seen, like DOT-7.

Vulcan has no moon etc. despite a massive body clearly being seen in Vulcan's sky as recently as Discovery flashbacks.

I could see that possibly being an OK retcon.

But, I'm largely OK with most retcons if it provides more depth to the story. It doesn't have to line up perfectly.

 

[F. King Daniel]

i expect this ep to:
-reference ST09/possibly Kelvinverse
-Nimoy Spock cameo
-show some TNG/Unification stuff

I think you'll be disappointed.

Although I guess they could reference the Kelvinverse, since they know all about the Mirror Universe by then.

I expect at most a holo left by Disco!Spock for Michael, or maybe a phot of 2009 Nimoy Spock on a screen somewhere.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Frankly, I'll be disappointed if they don't show at least one member of the Discovery crew reacting with surprise at learning that Romulans are related to Vulcans. It would be like if we found out via some throwaway line that Michael learned all about what became of Spock sometime in between the first and second episodes. For me it least, it seems like part of the fun of having the characters transplanted to the future is being able to see their reactions to stuff like this.

Hopefully a crewman named Stiles.

 

[SG-17]

I wonder if the location of the epicenter of the Burn is going to be where Romulus was.

Also I expect a direct reference to Spock.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

I have a feeling Spock will be remembered in the same vein as surak.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I expect a visit to Spock’s memorial statue.

 

[Cyrus]

I have a feeling Spock will be remembered in the same vein as surak.

Or Chief O'Brien.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

I expect a visit to Spock’s memorial statue.

And inscribed on it will be the words 'only nixon could go to china'

 

[Nyotarules]

Given the images of the folks in the conference room, I bet the Unification aspect is still being worked on. Hell I could see the Romulan faction that wants to join with Vulcan calling themselves something Spock related. That would cause strife with the discovery since from their eyes Romulans are the old enemy, and what would Spock be doing with them.

The Discovery crew have never fought with Romulans, that was 90 odd years before their era

 

[Airmandan]

The Discovery crew have never fought with Romulans, that was 90 odd years before their era

True, but at the time Romulans are still considered a unknown threat.

 

[The Wormhole]

Retconning Romulus to be binary wouldn't be the worst thing Trek has done. You're talking about a series that had Q&A and the Cage show completely different bridges within months.

Sure. Truly scandalous, that.

 

[fireproof78]

True, but at the time Romulans are still considered a unknown threat.

It will depend on how they are presented. If they are called Romulans then you'll have the red shirt death reaction to a Klingon in "Errand of Mercy." If they just present with the Vulcans then it will be less reactionary.

It will be fascinating to watch either way

Sure. Truly scandalous, that.

Star Trek never recovered. That's why we don't have new shows.

 

[Yistaan]

Sure. Truly scandalous, that.

You're changing the point of my reference. I didn't say it was scandalous. My point is that if that can be changed, so can adding another Romulan sun.

Romulus having a single sun has never been an element in any story, so adding another sun changes nothing. Trek has long since passed the point where they are beholden to visual continuity, it's only beholden to dialogue continuity.

 

[Nyotarules]

Trek has long since passed the point where they are beholden to visual continuity, it's only beholden to dialogue continuity.

No, it is not.

 

[The Wormhole]

You're changing the point of my reference. I didn't say it was scandalous. My point is that if that can be changed, so can adding another Romulan sun.

Romulus having a single sun has never been an element in any story, so adding another sun changes nothing. Trek has long since passed the point where they are beholden to visual continuity, it's only beholden to dialogue continuity.

'Kay. But what about in Picard where they said "the Romulan star" instead of "one of the Romulan stars"? Saying "the Romulan star" implies it's the only one in the Romulan solar system.

But I'm not even sure why this matters. Even if the Romulan system was a binary system, Romulus was still destroyed. That's definite canonical fact. What does revealing the system had another star actually add to this equation?

 

[Yistaan]

'Kay. But what about in Picard where they said "the Romulan star" instead of "one of the Romulan stars"? Saying "the Romulan star" implies it's the only one in the Romulan solar system.

But I'm not even sure why this matters. Even if the Romulan system was a binary system, Romulus was still destroyed. That's definite canonical fact. What does revealing the system had another star actually add to this equation?

It means that Spock had a plan for Romulus to continue to receive heat and energy after he destroyed one of its suns with a black hole instead of its only sun.