Poll Is this 32nd century a keeper?
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Haha.. oh wait, you’re serious? Like no time travel, ever?! That’s a little harsh, some of the best Trek episodes ever, were time travel related.
Ever.
I don't care what's been done previously. Obviously, I'm not time traveling to eliminate them (that you know...
). But, it creates constant questions and it's tiresome, at best.
I prefer Time Travel. If you can fix it, why not?
The amount of lives you can save by preventing "The Burn" would be astronomical.
The amount of lives you can save by preventing "The Burn" would be astronomical.
In the context of the Star Trek format, time travel ought to be used extremely judiciously, because it can far too easily become either a plot device that diffuses all storytelling tension, or a plot device that creates too much audience confusion. (Shows that operate on fundamentally different creative conceits, like Doctor Who, don't have that same problem.) It was badly over-used in VOY and ENT. I'm not quite to the point of saying it should be banned entirely, but I think there needs to be a very strong emotional and thematic storytelling purpose if it is used. If you do use time travel, it should be more in the vein of DS9's "The Visitor" and less in the vein of VOY's "Relativity."
Then fix everything.
I would if I could.
I know you would.
This is why in universe I wish time travel wasn't a thing. That's the incredibly tempting power of time travel is to go back and fix everything. I find the idea of just fixing the Burn to be rather disingenuous with things like the Dominion War or the Romulan Supernova being large cataclysms as well.
This is why we have DTI (Department of Temporal Investigations) so that they can investigate the down stream effects of time travel and make a call as to whether certain time travel events were good / bad for the UFP. That's why Janeway's Time Travel shenanigans at the end of the series is allowed to stand and all of Kirk's Time Travel shenanigans are kosher.
Yeah, I find that hard to believe.
Yet all of Kirk / Janeway's Time Travel shenanigans stand without it getting "Undone".
I'm not disagreeing with you in what we know from canon. I'm disagreeing about DTI's abilities to police so effectively and yet the Burn somehow would be acceptable while stopping the Dominion War would not.
It's why I hate time travel. It's cherry picking problems for solving.
StarFleet brass gave Benjamin Sisko the "OK" to mine the Wormhole to prevent further Dominion Reinforcements, that triggered the war.
In the end, StarFleet felt that war was inevitable with the amount of reinforcements that Dominion were bringing in and they did something about it. StarFleet and it's allies won and DTI doesn't want to change the victorious outcome. StarFleet never saw a way out of a bloody war in the case of the Dominion without subjugating itself underneath the Dominion Boot. That wasn't acceptable. So the only option was to fight and in the end StarFleet and it's allies won.
Cool.
I don't agree and don't trust DTI but I'll leave it at that. It's still cherry picking for the sake of cherry picking. The Burn isn't the only cataclysm the Federation experienced.
Which other cataclysms has the UFP faced that is as severe as "The Burn"?
The Borg. The Romulan Supernova. The Xindi attack. The Dominion War (which apparently as long as we win it's totally OK for people to die).
We still managed to repel the Borg.
The Romulan Supernova is more of a Romulan issue.
The Xindi attack, we managed to stop from executing it's final plan.
The Dominion War was inevitable given the way things were going. There was no good blood-less solution.
