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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

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And then there's the fact that the D7 shields are photon torpedo proof and phasor proof, but somehow another Federation ship going at slow impulse speeds can penetrate them and sever the boom of a D7.

My point? If the shields can deflect matter and energy propelled at near light speeds; why wouldn't a starship hull just bounce off them as well?
Actually, it's a common trope in science fiction that shield strength is proportional to the kinetic energy of the object that strikes them. This goes all the way back to Dune, but you also see it in Star Wars and a host of other shows and books. Under this trope, particles coming at the ship at beyond light speed would definitely trigger the shields, while a very slow but very massive ship could slide through the shields and break through a weak point in a ships hull. The real question is whether or not it violates existing Star Trek canon with regards to how shields work, which it might. I'll leave that up to you to debate.
Also I love how after 4 years of grabbing territory that somehow the Klingon Admiralty feels it's their best bet to send every single ship in their fleet to one location. Yes let's take all that territory and then leave it undefended And even though we're decisively winning the war, risk every gain on an attempt to destroy a few star fleet ships.
It's bad strategy from a command standpoint, but it's perfectly in keeping with the psychology of a race that values fighting itself over life and territory. I'm not sure Joe Viewer actually cares that much about the logic of a military strategy anyways. However, it is rather hypocritical to put in a nonsensical big battle if you're representing your movie as being smarter Trek than CBS...
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Actually, it's a common trope in science fiction that shield strength is proportional to the kinetic energy of the object that strikes them. This goes all the way back to Dune, but you also see it in Star Wars and a host of other shows and books. Under this trope, particles coming at the ship at beyond light speed would definitely trigger the shields, while a very slow but very massive ship could slide through the shields and break through a weak point in a ships hull. The real question is whether or not it violates existing Star Trek canon with regards to how shields work, which it might. I'll leave that up to you to debate.
Yep, SG-1 did the same thing with Goa'uld personal shields, which allowed O'Neill to demonstrate his knife-throwing abilities. :)
 
Well, the "movie" is really just about a Gary Stu and pew pew, and no matter how they spin or slice it, it comes up starship battle porn.

It's too bad, really. The character of Garth could be interesting if written as a Patton or a Montgomery, whose personal failings are a vivid counterpoint to whatever strategic or tactical brilliance they have.

As to shields and deflectors, Roddenberry explained how they're supposed to work in a letter to Bennett re "The Genesis Project", but everything after TMP forgets the distinction (TOS did too, occasionally). In short, the deflectors are directional and projected out in the direction of the attack. The shields are a bubble around the ship. IIRC the Bird suggested that instead of Kirk being stupid enough to not raise the shields that Khan—knowing how these defenses work—would fake having problems in order to get the Reliant in close enough where the deflectors couldn't be used and at such range the shields wouldn't be very effective.
 
Has anybody here read the Garth of Izar novel? I was curious how it's characterization of Garth compares to what Peters and Co. have put together.
I just looked it up and apparently it takes place after Whom Gods Destroy, but I would assume it must get into his history at least a little.
 
Has anybody here read the Garth of Izar novel? I was curious how it's characterization of Garth compares to what Peters and Co. have put together.
I just looked it up and apparently it takes place after Whom Gods Destroy, but I would assume it must get into his history at least a little.

I have read it, but it was really rather disappointing. Don't remember what it said about Garth's background.

My notes concerned only the Andorian inmate. The Sargent & Zebrowski novel "revealed that Tlollu (as Blish had already named him) was cured of his insanity within two years of receiving the new medicine delivered by Kirk's Enterprise. Returning to his home planet, he recommenced a productive existence."
 
Yet another Axanar merch Kickstarter has begun, for a cutaway poster of the Ares. Oddly, the ship itself seems to just be line-art, with no color, though it's on a full-color space background in most versions of the poster (there is a version on plain white, where it actually looks appropriate to be lines-only, instead of unfinished). Speaking of versions, in a fairly transparent attempt to pump the totals, you can only get the smaller, less expensive versions of the poster as add-ons to the largest, default version. So if you did want the one that was white on white and didn't look like they decided to stiff the artist halfway through, you'd have to buy all three posters.

And, of course, I have to share the opening line of the description:

"This is the fourth in a series of Kickstarters featuring the ships of Axanar, the most famous Star Trek fan film of all time."

That's a hell of a choice of superlative.
 
Of course, it's hard to be a favorite anything if it doesn't even exist.



EDIT: I have no idea how that became two separate postings.
 
The new cutaway poster kickstarter is an impressive microcosm of the whole Axanar experience (except of course that there is an actual product that you can buy).
 
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