Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x04 - "Forget Me Not"

[TimeIsAPredator]

Who has a life that's unconnected to anything else? We have a new character who has been alive through most of the DSC crew's "gap", with several Starfleet careers under their belt. Tal's perspective will be invaluable to the crew, and those past lives are a gold mine of stories. The first time anyone on the ship mentions Spock, Tal will recognise the name, that's a given. Tal is now the longest-serving Starfleet officer on the ship, even if Adira hasn't been sworn in yet.

Yes I would like exactly this. She should know who Spock is but not know him personally and some of the history of the gap years but that is a completely different thing to it turning out Tal was Braxtons father and Daniels lover while also having an affair at some stage with Odo

 

[Irvy]

LOL, definitely nothing like that. Adira is probably going to need time to properly incorporate all her host's memories, as she's likely to focus in on Grey and Senna as the 2 most relevant, but she's now the most experienced Starfleet officer on the ship, an Admiral, definitely going to butt heads with Saru.

From the Picard angle, that's a completely different Tal. I agree that making that Tal a regular on Picard wouldn't be a good plan, you can't put someone's life in peril if we know they're still alive centuries later. But it'd be a great Easter egg to just use the same actor in a Starfleet scene, like the guy who needed Picard to spell his name.

 

[Photoman15]

.... while Crusher was married to McCoy

That's so stupid! We all know Pulaski was McCoy's granddaughter

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

That's so stupid! We all know Pulaski was McCoy's granddaughter

And she was banging Rikers dad so it's all connected

 

[Noname Given]

An 8.

I liked this one a little better than last week's. I was also very happy they didn't make the symbiote Dax, like some fans were postulating.

I also like that they've kept the Discovery crew, and Burnham 23rd century people. I really enjoyed when she took out the phaser and just started stunning their trill escorts.

I also like that they're moving towards and incorporating elements that are clearly a callback to the ST: D Short Trek "Calypso".

(That was the scene where it's pretty clear the "Sphere Data" has begun to interface with the USS Discovery's main computer AI; and further it appears they use the same voice actor who did the computer voice in the "Calypso" Short Trek episode.)

I guess what I don't get is why they had to go through the whole rigmarole of using a shuttle. What their transporters aren't working? I mean where the riders that desperate to make sure they had a reason for the Trill Council to realize they hadn't left the planet because the shuttle was still parked at the landing zone? Sheesh.

As for the B story of the crew starting to come to terms with a decision they made and starting to deal with it (It was okay and hell if ST: D's premiere had been two weeks later, we would have been calling this the "Thanksgiving episode"); but why does every solution to stuff like this in Star Trek end up being something from Earth's 20th century? What? Does the 23rd century have no comedians or 'modern' form of transmitted / recorded entertainment that would serve the same purpose for the crew?

 

[Booji]

9

This was my favorite episode so far. Really cool ep from a DS9 fan perspective. This season has been a vast improvement over the first two seasons, which were average at best and a train wreck at worst. I'm genuinely enjoying the third season. I hope the quality continues.

 

[Sisko_is_my_captain]

It did just sort of casually potato its way into their ship exactly in the way things in space don't.

Captain! I'm detecting a Russet-class asteroid!

What the hell? This was supposed to be a Yukon-class asteroid belt! Evasive maneuvers, pattern Waffle-Alpha.

The helm isn't responding, sir! These spatial anomalies are making that asteroid move like asteroids don't!

Can we use the tractor beam?

It's moving too fas-- Oh GOD! It's potatoing right for us!! Godyammit!!

All hands abandon ship! Repeat: All hands abando--

BOOM

 

[Discofan]

Maybe that asteroid contained dark matter...

 

[jackoverfull]

I guess what I don't get is why they had to go through the whole rigmarole of using a shuttle. What their transporters aren't working?

Noticed that, good question.

why does every solution to stuff like this in Star Trek end up being something from Earth's 20th century? What? Does the 23rd century have no comedians or 'modern' form of transmitted / recorded entertainment that would serve the same purpose for the crew?

Might have something about being difficult showing future humor with 21st century humans understanding. Either it’s like our own humor, and therefore unrealistic, or totally detached from us, and therefore awkward.

 

[Noname Given]

Captain! I'm detecting a Russet-class asteroid!

What the hell? This was supposed to be a Yukon-class asteroid belt! Evasive maneuvers, pattern Waffle-Alpha.

The helm isn't responding, sir! These spatial anomalies are making that asteroid move like asteroids don't!

Can we use the tractor beam?

It's moving too fas-- Oh GOD! It's potatoing right for us!! Godyammit!!

All hands abandon ship! Repeat: All hands abando--

BOOM

It appears in this case "The Burn" was followed by: "The Mash" (Potato of course).

 

[fireproof78]

Does the 23rd century have no comedians or 'modern' form of transmitted / recorded entertainment that would serve the same purpose for the crew?

No, it doesn't.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It appears in this case "The Burn" was followed by: "The Mash" (Potato of course).

They were fried.

 

[plynch]

We would all be watching 18th century farce, as an equivalent. Would we be roaring? Maybe physical comedy is timeless.

Sometimes I wonder, all the stupid sitcoms with laugh tracks from the 60s. Did people actually find those funny, and tastes changed? Or were they equally stupid then and you just sat through them to decompress after a hard day?

Actually, I think tastes changed, now I think. On stupidtv (my affectionate name for AntennaTV, because it is not demanding -- a virtue, imho) they were re-running Mork and Mindy. Audience going crazy, Pam Dawber (my homegirl, btw) trying not to break, and I'm like . . . ha? Ha?

(And I do find some things uproariously funny. Just laughed for minutes at pics of the Giuliania press conference at the Four Seasons . . . Garden Center.)

 

[Nerys Myk]

No, it doesn't.

No one in the RL audience would give a hoot about the holos of Shecky Goldbaum, 23rd Century comedian. Sometimes you gotta play to the folks watching at home.

 

[cooleddie74]

I laugh at Laurel and Hardy and it's been about 80 years since they made any films together. Funny is pretty timeless.

People will still be laughing at the Three Stooges centuries from now.

 

[Irvy]

We would all be watching 18th century farce, as an equivalent. Would we be roaring? Maybe physical comedy is timeless.

Lots of comedy is timeless, as is much music, but not everything. You may as well criticise orchestras for still playing Beethoven. Slapstick comedy especially is timeless and universal. Farts will always be funny too, even in the 32nd Century.

 

[cooleddie74]

Spock: "My apologies, Captain."

Kirk: "For wha...



OH, SWEET...WHAT DID YOU..."

Spock: [*Silently smiles to self*]

 

[Deks]

Computer: 'All available crew, report to Shuttlebay for a surprise'.

I had a lingering thought that Saru could think: 'Why the shuttlebay? if most of the crew is there, Discovery could simply blow them all out the aft shuttlebay by lowering the forcefield'.

 

[JD]

From the Picard angle, that's a completely different Tal. I agree that making that Tal a regular on Picard wouldn't be a good plan, you can't put someone's life in peril if we know they're still alive centuries later.

We don't know when or how that guy died, so his fate would be completely open if he did appear on Picard. The only limitation is that they would have to make sure they are able to save the symbiont.

As for the B story of the crew starting to come to terms with a decision they made and starting to deal with it (It was okay and hell if ST: D's premiere had been two weeks later, we would have been calling this the "Thanksgiving episode"); but why does every solution to stuff like this in Star Trek end up being something from Earth's 20th century? What? Does the 23rd century have no comedians or 'modern' form of transmitted / recorded entertainment that would serve the same purpose for the crew?

Yeah, this has bugged with with the Trek shows for long time. Other than Flotter on Voyager, and a few other brief mentions, we've never really gotten an idea of what pop culture is like in the 23rd or 24th, or no 32nd centuries. The vast majority of the times we see the characters watching or reading something, it's from the 21st century or earlier. I would love to what kind of new stuff people watch and read in the 23rd, 24th, and 32nd centuries.

Sometimes I wonder, all the stupid sitcoms with laugh tracks from the 60s. Did people actually find those funny, and tastes changed? Or were they equally stupid then and you just sat through them to decompress after a hard day?

Actually, I think tastes changed, now I think. On stupidtv (my affectionate name for AntennaTV, because it is not demanding -- a virtue, imho) they were re-running Mork and Mindy. Audience going crazy, Pam Dawber (my homegirl, btw) trying not to break, and I'm like . . . ha? Ha?

I watch a lot of old shows, and still find them enjoyable.

I laugh at Laurel and Hardy and it's been about 80 years since they made any films together. Funny is pretty timeless.

People will still be laughing at the Three Stooges centuries from now.

I just started watchin the Three Stooges the last couple weeks, and I've been enjoying their stuff.

 

[Nyotarules]

No one in the RL audience would give a hoot about the holos of Shecky Goldbaum, 23rd Century comedian. Sometimes you gotta play to the folks watching at home.

They should have shown Red Dwarf