Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x04 - "Forget Me Not"

[Tosk]

I was promised a trans and a non binary, and one of them is already dead.

Unless I'm misremembering you were promised a trans actor, not a trans character. Ian Alexander is still very much alive.

Adira is also growing on me as well. Seeing her is like we're seeing Dax again, without officially having her designated as one.

Personally, I'm quite glad Dax isn't the symbiont in question. This opens them up to any history they want rather than being beholden to a character that has already been thoroughly explored. But I also get the urge to wanna see old faves.

 

[unimatrix7]

This was shockingly good Star Trek.

 

[J.D.]

Beautifully done. Need to watch this again asap.

 

[TPezz]

Tens right across the board!
I feel so emotionally drained after this episode, in a good way.
As I have previously mentioned, growing up as an LGBTQI kid, I so wish I had have had episodes of my favourite shows that were like this. It gives me hope that in this currently messed up world the next generation will be a much more accepting and loving place. We are all messed up in our own way, but it’s our connection, not differences that keep us together.
Thank you to everyone involved with this episode. You’ve made my heart full.

Discovery was not only meant to go 900 years into the future, this season was meant to be delayed till November 2020. I can’t think of a better week for this air. It was meant to be.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Giving this one a 10. It was fucking beautiful.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

OK great episode.

We got to see Trill that was fantastic. I loved that bit

Ships computer gets funny talk and flirty.... Did you catch the glitch on the screen behind Saru, sphere data making ship happy.

The dinner was nice
They came for the spice
Then started shouting
Then all walk out

Oh that was a fantastic episode 8/10
The scene in the shuttlebay made me misty...

I like how eventually they all seemed to make up and talk to each other again.
Can't wait for the next episode.

 

[picardjean-luc]

On the other hand, aren't Trill set up to be tragedies waiting to happen?

At the same time, Trill characters are immortal because their memories and personalities are implanted inside the symbiont. As long as the symbiont is alive I suppose.

 

[RAMA]

Easily the best episode of the season so far. It was a nice mix of character moments and crew drama and excellent performances from the new actors on the show. Getting to see Trill and learn more about their ways was a welcome elaboration of Trek Lore and was nicely presented. The final reveal of Adira's hosts was also handled well. Seeing Zora take on the form we hear in Calypso from the Spore data was a thrilling plus. Saru tries to heal the crew with a little help, and things did not exactly go as planned. I expect this to take time. This has a feeling of authenticity I don't think could have been accomplished in the previous Trek era.

Just a really fine episode.
Rating. 9.25/10 (9/10 for the poll)

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

The scenes on Trill is what made it for me, as was the dinner scene as my little ditty. That was really a great character moment and then when everyone seemed to make up it made up for that scene. Such a great episode and our first glimpse of Zora. Yay.. I give it 8.5/10 but 8 on the poll.

 

[Cyrus]

Buster Keaton? That stuff isn’t even that funny now, never mind a thousand years from now.

Keaton is hilarious. Hopefully a thousand years from now people still have a better sense of humor than you.

 

[cultcross]

Discovery's best episode to date? Don't mind if I do.

A clear 10 from me. And I'm not crying, that's just a previous host.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Side note:

Memory Beta's page for the Tal symbiont lists all of its previous hosts, even the ones prior to Senna. Were these established in the actual episode? (I haven't seen it yet)

 

[NCC-73515]

yes, in a beautiful scene

 

[Fenric]

Wonderful episode for me, think it's my favourite of the series so far purely for the emotional notes it was able to hit within me the beginnings of covering mental health, identity and who we are.

Can I also say what a thoroughly warm kind lovely character Culber is even after Detmer insulted his boyfriend he was still able to show humility to help her, so inspiring.

at the end i have some tears welling up in my eyes.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Side note:

Memory Beta's page for the Tal symbiont lists all of its previous hosts, even the ones prior to Senna. Were these established in the actual episode? (I haven't seen it yet)

Yes.

 

[Hythlodeus]

Side note:

Memory Beta's page for the Tal symbiont lists all of its previous hosts, even the ones prior to Senna. Were these established in the actual episode? (I haven't seen it yet)

yes, and something flew into my eye during that scene

 

[Tirius]

To the cast, the writers, the crew... thank you. Thank you so much for this amazing, emotional, heartbreaking tale. I cannot believe it, not after my response to season 1, that Discovery has now produced an episode that is going straight into my top 10 Trek ever. Ladies, gentlemen, many-gendered aliens and those of infinite diversity - Trek is back.

On a side note - after the Coridanites, Earth and Trill, it almost feels like Discovery is getting to do the 'founding of the Federation' storyline that Enterprise never got to. It's starting to feel we're collecting planets one by one to put them back together. Great stuff.

 

[Timo]

"The Burn decimated our population, particularly those capable of joining. We no longer have enough viable hosts." They established in Equilibrium that "virtually half" of the Trill population was capable of joining. The casualties from the Burn must be much more significant than previously stated. Way more than the "Millions" figure from Burnham.

Then again, the Trill are all about obfuscation. It was the default position of that society to hide the fact that basically anybody could Join, and we don't get any signs that this would ever have changed, either as the result of "Equilibrium" or otherwise. The whole thing is a religion, with clear-cut dogmata, and even galactic mayhem won't be enough to shake that.

Grey being let to die fits well there, too: "Let's not endanger this symbiont by unduly worrying about this carcass around it" would be hardwired to the 'bots. Even if the only option open to them then becomes "Let's try grafting it into an incompatible host", by the official standards. But they might know better, with instructions not to tell.

How does it work, just five hosts covering 2390s through 3180s? Do just Trill hosts live for 160 years on the average, or is that the average lifespan for all almost-humans out there from the 25th century on?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[valkyrie013]

Something Bugging me..
" about 500 symbionts became available for joining, each year, compared to approximately 5,000 Trill becoming initiates per annum. The relatively low quantity of symbionts resulted in Trill society hiding from their general populace the fact that virtually 50% of the population was suitable for joining, and the general belief in the 24th century was consequently that only one in every 1,000 Trills was suitable for joining. This was done out of concern and fear for the symbionts, as it was felt that the sentient species could come to be viewed as mere prizes or commodities to be fought over. (DS9: "Equilibrium")"

If half the population is capable of joining, how can they be running out of hosts? I know that over 900 years that the population of joinable Trill could have been decimated, but to me unlikely.. Just a thought that crossed my head.

 

[ThinkPanda]

I wonder if the explosion is relevant to the main storyline? Kind of conspiracy behind?