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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x04 - "Forget Me Not"

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I really enjoyed this episode, it was a real punch to the gut when I worked out Grey was going to die and would be the previous host for Adira's symbiont. I think Grey's appearance at the end is interesting, we've certainly had glimpses into what that relationship is like for a joined person. This is another level and explores that more, and can easily be explained as a result of the trauma. If I followed correctly, Grey's joining was recent and he and Adira were still adjusting to it, so there may well be a sense of loss for the symbiont to know a being so entirely for such a short time. To then join with someone who knew and loved that last host, it's not a surprise that's something that would manifest itself. I think that's a very sad, very beautiful thread to Adira's story. They watched their love die, and now possesses his memories of his love for her as well as her own memories of the same time.
The relationship between Head Gray and Adira has the potential to be tense, perhaps creepy, though still interesting. In this episode, yes, it's beautiful that Adira could incorporate the Tal symbiont and preserve the memories of Gray. On the other hand, how does one live when another personality inside one's mind cannot be shut off? Is it fair to someone who wants to fall in love (or lust, for that matter)? Jadzia could largely keep the past hosts in check (save for Joran, whose memories were suppressed). On the other hand, Ezri, who did not come through the Trill initiate program, struggled to differentiate her own impulses from those of her hosts. She was obviously haunted by Jadia's relationship with Worf. That said, Ezri did not seem to have experienced involuntary reappearances of those hosts. I'm not sure that the Head Gray story is going to be all that simple, and yet may find other ways of being tragic.
 
"Head Gray" strikes me as less ominous than first appearances suggest. He was open to the idea of trusting Michael with the facts as he and Adira understood them at that point.
 
random thoughts: I like the current period uniforms, at least so far, and better than the Disco uniforms. I was hoping they'd switch to Pike's crew's uniforms last season. Now I am hoping they'll switch by the end of this one.

Adira is a fascinating character, and extremely well written and acted by Blu del Barrio.

Ian Alexander was very good in the OA. I was worried they were going to kill him off after one episode. Glad he will be staying on on some form. That's 2 transplants from the OA. Keep them coming.

It's becoming harder to pick favorite characters on this show.

Somehow the old black and white movie in the shuttle bay gave me more of a "Serious-ish" episode of MASH feel than Star Trek, and that is by no means a bad thing.

Where was this writing in season one? If it had been like thing from the beginning I would have liked it more
Seems like things behind the camera are finally not chaotic. There really needs to be a book about season one. i think there was more drama going on offscreen than on.
 
Excellent. They really nailed this one.

I wonder if TNG 3x04 ("Who Watches the Watchers") elicited similar "hm, they're really hitting their stride" feelings - because that's what I'm getting here. Big time.
 
Buster Keaton not being funny -
I find for myself that the older a film is, the more difficult it is to watch. I was watching "Mr. Roberts", from the 1950s, recently and had to end the film early. The sexism in the film was too much, it felt oppressive. Many films from before my time feel like relics with outdated values and are painfully slow.

Chaos behind the scenes -
Season 2 had a change mid-season which was reflected in the story arc. The first half had a different feel from the second half.
 
I have a hankering suspicion that Culber's haiku messup was a real one - aka, a blooper... and they just decided to keep it in.
It was scripted. Culber screwed it up on purpose to let people about screwing up as well

That rule didn't last long since Picard gets assigned to a covert ops mission.

which is not at all a regular away mission and came very late in the show.

The spontaneous haikus seemed a bit forced in general, but Detmer’s haiku was so dark, so odd, so flat-out weird that I wondered why none of the other characters found it strange, especially considering her bizarre delivery.
Right, everybody loved it... :rolleyes:

Did anyone else notice what looked like CGI blurring around Adira's boyfriend's jaw?
I don't know what you mean - picture?
 
Who says they have to save the Federation on their own? They are currently reaching out to allies and working to figure things out. Do we just want a library episode of them sifting through records?
Which may be something people are doing offscreen or during montage sequences (like the one in this very episode).
 
anyone else notice that the sphere device they put in the pool had the Trill emblem on it?

They have to tag every item in the future, because, you see, centuries from now, most people will become what we call "kleptomaniacs". They shoplift just for the thrill of it, not to mention workplace purloining.

It’s a rampant, albeit offscreen issue. Replicators can’t keep up with the loss! That’s why Starfleet litter their logos, emblems, seals, insignias and coats-of-arm everywhere: tricorders, hyposprays, pads, T-shirts, ceiling tiles, spoons, brooms, and so on.
 
Trekcore has similar concerns:
There’s much more to Gray as a character, though, than how his death serves the plot, but I worry that rendering a trans character literally invisible within minutes of his introduction undermines the representational value of including him in the first place.

While there’s reason to expect he’ll return beyond this episode (though we’ve not yet seen past the first four episodes of the season), it’s hard not to see killing off a character played by the Star Trek franchise’s first explicitly-transgender actor is a pretty serious hurdle for some viewers to get past.
http://blog.trekcore.com/2020/11/star-trek-discovery-review-forget-me-not/
 
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