Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x04 - "Forget Me Not"

[cooleddie74]

Also: I love Dr. Culber's big Dr. McCoy-style medical scanner that's twice as big as the ones of the 2260s. When DSC gets the handheld props from this era right they get them right and often then some. I could see McCoy complaining about that scanner being too bulky and an older model.

 

[fireproof78]

My first 10 in a long while.

WHY CAN'T MORE OF THEM BE LIKE THIS?!?!?!?

Because then they wouldn't be 10s. They would be 5s.

 

[cooleddie74]

[*Crunches the math*]

Dammit.

 

[Kaelef]

That was such a massive improvement over the previous episodes. Still had a couple of spots where suspension of disbelief could've been aided by small changes to the story, but overall the episode's quality was excellent. I hope this is a taste of more to come the rest of this season. Character interactions were good. Paid off previous threads. Even the effects were exceptionally good.

Did anyone else notice what looked like CGI blurring around Adira's boyfriend's jaw?

 

[cooleddie74]

There was one missed opportunity for a throwaway visual reference at the senior staff's dinner. A plate of colored food cubes.

 

[Irvy]

I really enjoyed this episode, it was a real punch to the gut when I worked out Grey was going to die and would be the previous host for Adira's symbiont. I think Grey's appearance at the end is interesting, we've certainly had glimpses into what that relationship is like for a joined person. This is another level and explores that more, and can easily be explained as a result of the trauma. If I followed correctly, Grey's joining was recent and he and Adira were still adjusting to it, so there may well be a sense of loss for the symbiont to know a being so entirely for such a short time. To then join with someone who knew and loved that last host, it's not a surprise that's something that would manifest itself. I think that's a very sad, very beautiful thread to Adira's story. They watched their love die, and now possesses his memories of his love for her as well as her own memories of the same time.

I'm really liking this new more liberated Michael, and she's much more relatable to me now (but that's a long story. Give me a phaser with a stun setting and don't answer my questions, and you'll find out ). It made sense to me that she didn't call for back up, she's been working without much of a net for the past year, just her and Book.

The crew PTSD storyline was great, and struck a lot of chords with our real life sci fi movie we're all going through. We definitely need to hear a lot more from the rest of the crew and flesh out those characters more. I am a bit worried about Saru though. He's lost his fear, but has he lost all sense of caution? He just decides it's probably the sphere data asserting itself, and never considers that some remnant of Control may have survived and is taking over the ship? Bad Captain, Picard would have ordered Geordi and Data to have done a manual diagnostic of the computer and look for any sign of Control, just in case. Mind you, Picard wouldn't have been asking the computer for advice in the first place, he'd just have held his crystal for a while and sipped Earl Grey.

 

[Kaelef]

The only thing I don't like is the mention of dark matter for accessing subspace. Trek has never needed that before, and it would have worked better with Tilly showing Stemats some math which he too quickly rejects. That's just a quibble.

I agree. They're trying to be topical by referring to something that's mysterious in today's science, but I have a feeling it's just going to make the show seem very dated pretty quickly.

And the "dark matter is made of subatomic particles".... yeah... so is everything else...

 

[Kaelef]

The crew PTSD storyline was great, and struck a lot of chords with our real life sci fi movie we're all going through.

Part of what I liked about this plot line is that it both helps explain away some of the more awkwardly written character interactions of the recent past, and gives the writers license to go with a hopefully more realist/humanistic tone in the future.

Hopefully it's not one of those one-off things that's soon forgotten (like the "we can't travel the mycelial network because we're killing sentient creatures" business...)

 

[Lord Garth]

The dialog during the senior staff dinner was cringe....

It was. A lot of it was by design, so I understand what they were trying to do, but yeah. Detmer's not right in the head, so what she says isn't going to be right in the head either.

The rest of the characters sounded and acted like I thought they would.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Oh. And one more thing that can't be said enough:

Michelle Yeoh is a fucking treasure.

I was just imagining a crossover episode with Georgiou and Aversarala from The Expanse going at it.

 

[Nerys Myk]

That was a really really incompetent 31st century medical robot...

I mean seriously... It couldn't even fix some light burns and a stab wound? The Doctor could have stabilized that with a basic med kit 900 year ago...

It's Star Trek, medicine ( like everything else) operates at the need of the plot.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

My first 9 for DSC. I don't think I ever rated a DSC show before, but they would def. have been lower.

This had a classic episode feel with an A plot, a B plot, and a bit of driving the overarching narrative forward. And I loved that a bit of focus was on Culber, even though it was mostly as a narrator/ observer. Nice overall theme of connection/ healing.

Even mirror Georgiou didn't annoy me this week.

Very sorry that Gray is kinda dead... or is he? (I'm going with the gender/ pronouns they're using thus far.) He's so beautiful, he could be a relative/ descendant of Lenara Kahn. And the two of them have lovely chemistry.

Oh wait... Did I just see an aged Ash Tyler in the teaser for next week?! If so, I'd like to retract 1 or 5 points...

ETA: I never thought Buster Keaton was funny and I doubt anyone in the future would, but I don't mind. Great ep.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I gave it a 9 too. I think I might have rated Memory Serves a 9 too. I can't remember.

 

[TrekMD]

I really liked this episode. I thought the story was well written and the character development was good. I also like what they are doing with the computer.

 

[picardjean-luc]

Oh wait... Did I just see an aged Ash Tyler in the teaser for next week?! If so, I'd like to retract 1 or 5 points...

More like Admiral Leyton 2.0 to me . Something tells me he''ll turn out to be another Badmiral

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[JirinPanthosa]

So, definitively not Dax now. Though with that Bajoran Hasparat thing it's somebody with a career track very very close to hers.

I liked the episode a lot in terms of the direction in took the show, bringing hope that planets out there still believe in togetherness and such. In a way though it felt like a Bermantrek episode.

 

[cooleddie74]

It had a very DS9 feel to it.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

In a way though it felt like a Bermantrek episode.

To me, too. In the sense of "the good stuff of Berman era trek without the bad stuff of Bermantrek".

 

[Xerxes82]

Ok, this was excellent. Fantastic character focus. The crew dinner was beautiful. Watching Detmer slam headlong into her pain right in front of everybody, while simultaneously calling out Stamets for being a dick got right to my happy place. This cast is coming together in a really joyous and organic way.

Where has this version of Burnham been this whole time? I realize that where we are now is the result of the character's journey through the previous seasons, but she's finally likeable! The scene on the way to the shuttle with Adira is the first time I've genuinely, unreservedly enjoyed this character. She has found a bit of freedom, and it let's SMG finally bring some warmth and charm to what had been a largely lifeless, mechanical performance. More of this and we're on the right track!

Saru remains amazing. I love that we're getting to watch him grapple with the burden of command, and keeping his crew mentally as well as physically healthy. And hearing him compare himself to Pike last season really hit a chord. He can't be his role model, he needs to find his own way forward. Doug Jones carries this show so hard sometimes.

Culber's voice here felt really strong, and unique to his experience. He's already been through what the crew is going through, in his own way. And he's come out of stronger, thanks to these other people around him. Now he intends to shephard them as they guided him. It's beautiful, and the actor brings such a quiet strength to the role that I've really found myself enjoying the character.

And finally, Adira. I wasn't sure what to expect with this character after her debut last week, but this was really strong. A great performance wrapped around a really solid piece of plotting. I cared more about Adira and Gray after a few minutes than I cared about Ash Tyler after an entire season. (No disrespect to Shazad Latif, whom I truly enjoy as an actor. But he had crap writing.) I'm really interested in seeing how Adira Tal fits into the Discovery dynamic.

In short, less bombast, more character. This show sings when it does these moments. I feel like maybe Disco is hitting it's stride.

 

[Tuskin38]

Very sorry that Gray is kinda dead... or is he? (I'm going with the gender/ pronouns they're using thus far.)

Grey identifies as a male yes. It’s Adira that’s apparently going to switch to them/they later on.