I posited that when the Federation HQ departed Earth, they may have concocted a plan so that Earth 'officially' withdrew from the Federation (to avoid it being a target) and of course to preserve it for eventual return once the cause of the Burn was discovered and dealt with... but otherwise that Earth may be in on this plan intentionally.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x03 - "People of Earth"
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I posited that when the Federation HQ departed Earth, they may have concocted a plan so that Earth 'officially' withdrew from the Federation (to avoid it being a target) and of course to preserve it for eventual return once the cause of the Burn was discovered and dealt with... but otherwise that Earth may be in on this plan intentionally.
But you did mention this:
1) A first quantum torpedo would knock out most of Discovery's shields (if they were at 100%).
2) A second quantum torpedo would take out what little there was left of the shields and inflict extremely heavy damage. In a sensitive enough area, that would be it. But if not...
3) A third quantum torpedo would finish the job for good measure.
I wasn't under the impression you were using 24th century Defiant for attacking Disco when making those 3 points.
But... if that was the case, then I'd agree.
Otherwise, no ship from the 23rd century could hope to survive just 1 low power torpedo from the 32nd century... just don't see it as a viable possibility.
Even if you assume technology didn't progress past the Burn (which for Earth didn't seem like that because it seemed to have been doing just fine), that would still mean 810 years of technological gap between Earth ships and what Disco had.
This is why I can only make it work 'in universe' is a combo of Adira's device and Disco's Sphere Data (for the nascent stage of Disco's 'evolution').
They weren't trying to destroy the ship (either the Discovery or Booker's) just cripple it and stop it from achieving its goal. Dilithium is worth too much to destroy a huge cache like that.
It was the case.
Because I finished with "If I remember DS9 correctly, the Defiant fired quantum torpedoes pretty fast. Giving the Discovery no reaction time between shots."
So nothing to see here. We're on the same page.
On a related note: they've given Picard cover to include Discovery ships, if it wants to use any of the designs from the first two seasons. The EDF identifies Discovery's design configuration and construction as being from the 23rd to 25th Century.
It also gives an in-universe explanation for why there were so many TOS Movie ship designs in TNG and DS9.
It also gives an in-universe explanation for why there were so many TOS Movie ship designs in TNG and DS9.
That's a great point on its own. I forgot the Sphere Data automatically preserves itself by altering the ship's systems. We can interpret DIscovery not being obliterated by two quantum torpedoes as the ultimate limit of the ship's adaptability, and not its innate, as designed, strength.
We already saw Discovery ships in the Short Trek Picard prequel "Children of Mars"
Except for the fact that Earth didn't particularly care about Dilithium... they had their own stockpiles.
I mean as in they're acknowledging it in-story. So they're owning it instead of telling people, "Pretend you didn't see that ship in the background! Who cares?" Instead they're saying, "Yes! We're using these ships not because we have to but because we want to. Except for Enterprise, every design introduced is fair game."
That's a great thing, IMHO.
Classically speaking, not every Star Trek episode had a personified antagonist, and even where such an antagonist existed, they were rarely a true villain.
I don't think it's that important, as I said upthread. The Burn was constructed to give the USS Discovery some sense of agency 930 years in the future. It's a McGuffin. And everyone seems to have moved on from it.
I'm not saying we won't ever find out, but it seems pretty clear the season arc is about finding the Federation first, and then starting to rebuild it.
#2 here...................Discovery is top 5 in the world on Netflix today and with a higher score than last week.
All I saw was #12.
Holidate based on that photo looks like your typical holiday romantic comedy.
I just want to comment on the polarities of Stamets' honesty and Saru's effortless lying. Brilliantly contrasted. But will Stamets earn brig time for not requesting permission to disclose the Spore Drive from his Captain? It is wonderful that he chose disclosure over keeping things hidden, as this crew is wont to do. I just hope he isn't disciplined for it.
So? Maybe they cared about the lives on the ships?
Or, most likely, they ordered the torpedoes to take down the shields, and the torpedoes being uber-advanced sub-quantum dealies, they automatically adjusted upon impact (or slightly before) to provide a yield just enough to take down Discovery's shields. It would've been a higher yield if it had impacted Booker's more advanced shields.
The torpedoes or torpedo operators may have detected the presence of Defence Force personnel stranded on the near-defenceless ship, and decided not to do more than remove shields or slight crippling.
Possible, but in the initial conversation, Ndoye gave standing orders to stop Booker's ship and the raiders... and she said Earth ships were willing to go through Discovery to accomplish that (which to me implied they WOULD destroy Discovery with the Inspectors still aboard).
Also, Burnham mentioned that Discovery can't take another hit.