The folks on Titan split off from Earth thinking they could be self sufficient. Earth's attitude must have been was "Okay fine you're on your own."
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x03 - "People of Earth"
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Not really, the sphere had hundreds of thousands of years of data, despite the age that's a heck of a lot more then even future Earth could probably learn.
this is the only sensible explanation I’ve read so far.
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I am, so far, unless I skipped a response, seeing people talk about Earth's reaction.
Titan was fully self-sufficient until they had an accident at their research base, which destroyed a third of the habitats and wiped out the tillable soil. They had no long-range communications, so they send a ship which promptly says hello to a torpedo or a phaser from an Earth ship. They then go on a rampage, wearing outfits which make them look alien, terrorizing Earth.
In all that time of coming up with an answer to their crisis, did they not consider contacting other settled places, that we know of and those we don't know about? It did feel like the writers forgot that humans had colonized more than Titan.
Known places:
Venus - undergoing terraforming in the 2370s, probably a colony soon after
Moon - colonies
Mars - Hundreds of years later, atmospheric fires could have stopped, rebuilt takes place afterwards
Jupiter - a giant station in the 24th century and outposts and a colony on Ganymede ("By Any Other Name")
Looking at a list from Wikipedia on where humans could colonize, there are options at Neptune (moons), at Uranus (moons), and, adding a personal favorite here, Pluto.
Titan was fully self-sufficient until they had an accident at their research base, which destroyed a third of the habitats and wiped out the tillable soil. They had no long-range communications, so they send a ship which promptly says hello to a torpedo or a phaser from an Earth ship. They then go on a rampage, wearing outfits which make them look alien, terrorizing Earth.
In all that time of coming up with an answer to their crisis, did they not consider contacting other settled places, that we know of and those we don't know about? It did feel like the writers forgot that humans had colonized more than Titan.
Known places:
Venus - undergoing terraforming in the 2370s, probably a colony soon after
Moon - colonies
Mars - Hundreds of years later, atmospheric fires could have stopped, rebuilt takes place afterwards
Jupiter - a giant station in the 24th century and outposts and a colony on Ganymede ("By Any Other Name")
Looking at a list from Wikipedia on where humans could colonize, there are options at Neptune (moons), at Uranus (moons), and, adding a personal favorite here, Pluto.
Colonizing Venus makes no sense!!! The surface temperature can melt lead! Why not colonize Earth oceans instead?
GRRRR....Star Trek...
GRRRR....Star Trek...
actually colonizing Venus in the form of floating cities in the upper atmosphere has become something of a serious hypothesis lately.
In "Past Tense, Part I", O'Brien mentioned that there were terraforming stations on Venus. This says a lot about 24th century technology.
The plot required these colonies to be absent in the 31/32nd century. For so many years, and in addition to the temporal war, an infinite number of justifications can be found for this state of affairs. So
Its a starship... its SUPPOSED to be able to survive under extreme conditions.
We've seen Starfleet ships being threatened by a multitude of space phenomena that put a (controlled) crash landing to shame.
The needs of the story outweigh the needs of the viewers, or the fans.
I hate that kind of storytelling.
Gimping in-universe technology/setting for the sake of the drama as opposed to working WITH IT.
It would have been better to have the whole SOL system isolating itself and erecting a giant SOL wide defenensive shield by using a Dyson Swarm for example.
Honestly this is the reason so many Trek stories have historically taken place at some random planet we've never heard of before, rather than Earth.
The most recent data is 900 years out of date;; but the spear has data going back I think at least 10, 000 years or so.
You dont need any advanced or long range communication device to reach Titan. A simple radio will do fine.
Technically, you don't, but Earth DID use subspace communications (which they used to converse with Discovery) that are FTL anyway (along with sensors).
Again, Earth would have been able to detect the malfunction on Titan and dispatch potential help - aka ships to see what the heck happened - unless someone DID see that and intentionally hid that information from the rest of Earth, or Earth readily ignored that because Titan broke off from Earth... I'm just reaching at straws at this point.
We saw that Ndoye was willing to help once dialogue was established. You'd think someone would have thought of that before hand (well, Titan did try, but Earth destroyed that ship).
Also, did Earth Defense ships not have subspace communications or long range sensors?
Also, Wen has ships... those should be capable of long range FTL communications alone (without antimatter and dilithium) and sensors.
Don't think the writers pay that much attention to anything these days or care.
well its the Era of Jar Jar Abram Sci fi
The plot required these colonies to be absent in the 31/32nd century. For so many years, and in addition to the temporal war, an infinite number of justifications can be found for this state of affairs. So
Yes, but it doesn't fit what we know of the Federation.
It can be tenacious when it comes to rebuilding stuff... so, its unlikely that SOL would be largely void of life except on Earth and Titan.
I arrived at the same conclusion.
Mind you, the Yorktown Starbase in the Kelvin timeline was AMAZING (and that was 23rd century)... that alone deserves to be maintained and preserved for centuries in the prime timeline.
Maybe it became new Starlfeet/Federation HQ after the Burn.
The plot required these colonies to be absent in the 31/32nd century. For so many years, and in addition to the temporal war, an infinite number of justifications can be found for this state of affairs. So
The plot didnt have to require it though.
Competent writing would have moved Titan to Alpha centruri and had the entire sol cutting itself off as single entity.
The story would still have worked and made more sense.
It for this reason I give this episode 1 out of 10.
Sloppy writing.
1 out of 10 for that? Sounds a bit harsh. This isn't "Threshold".