Justice League official "Zack Snyder" cut on HBO Max

[Morpheus 02]

Can we just sum this up as saying that the DC Film Universe has as much continuity these days as the X-Men movies series? I mean... is Aquaman supposed to be a "prequel" to Justice League events? It didn't seem super clear to me.

For me, i think Snyder did some great things (such as casting, as well as Clark's childhood training), it got sabotaged by a lot of other decisions.

And i wonder -- how much influence did Geoff Johns yield in developing ideas? Patty Jenkins gave him a lot of credit for WOnder Woman. I really wish Johns had had more explicit control.

How i wanted the DC Film Universe to be like the MCU, is NOT having EVERY production explicitly connected (like the Inifinity Stones thing), but just that it FEELS like a connected universe. It might be a big crossover, maybe a small reference... but just where it feels connected. From a business standpoint, instead of dividing audience attention and enthusiasm, have such that each character might have a fan base, but a larger (maybe much larger, as we see with Marvel) group can follow EVERYTHING, and have just enough so they anticipate the next thing, rather than having to decide, "do watch /spend on this...or that", which is what the flood of DC material is doing (and even DC TV/Berlantiverse... which i love a lot; those 5 shows at once to me felt like overstauration)

 

[JulieYBM]

This whole project is so dumb and weird, I can't wait to see what this train wreck is going to be like. Is he going to end it on the cliffhanger or is he going to give us the Justice League defeating Darkseid? Good grief...

 

[The Realist]

I mean... is Aquaman supposed to be a "prequel" to Justice League events? It didn't seem super clear to me.

The passing reference to the battle against Steppenwolf would seem to make it clear that Aquaman follows the events of Justice League. And the reference is vague and incidental enough that it will probably work just as well with either version of JL.

 

[DigificWriter]

Can we just sum this up as saying that the DC Film Universe has as much continuity these days as the X-Men movies series?

No, because the XMCU and DCEU chronologies and continuities are both super-straightforward.

I mean... is Aquaman supposed to be a "prequel" to Justice League events?

No.

 

[Noname Given]

No, because the XMCU and DCEU chronologiesand continuities are both super-straightforward.

^^^
Yeah, about that:
X-Men III - The Last Stand would like a word with you.

 

[DigificWriter]

^^^
Yeah, about that:
X-Men III - The Last Stand would like a word with you.

I have no idea what you're trying to infer here.

 

[Noname Given]

I have no idea what you're trying to infer here.

That the XMCU continuity is hardly "super-straightforward".

 

[DigificWriter]

That the XMCU continuity is hardly "super-straightforward".

You cited The Last Stand to try and make your point, and I don't get what you were trying to infer by doing so.

 

[crookeddy]

You cited The Last Stand to try and make your point, and I don't get what you were trying to infer by doing so.

It's a movie that got thrown out of continuity, though it was done in universe.

 

[Timby]

Yeah, the continuity of the X-Men movies is a gigantic hot mess.

 

[Morpheus 02]

The passing reference to the battle against Steppenwolf would seem to make it clear that Aquaman follows the events of Justice League. And the reference is vague and incidental enough that it will probably work just as well with either version of JL.

i guess i have to watch both Aquaman and Justice League again... because JL makes it seem like Arthur was fairly active as Aquaman beofre JL/Aquaman movie's main action. Also, didn't Mera & Arthur interact in JL?

But in Aquaman, it seemed like that was their first time meeting (though i think Mera already knew about Arthur).

And with WOnder WOman, her lost love of Steve was "a long time ago", but maybe not so much with WW84. (Though my kids would certainly disagree with me on that one )

I am cool with ignoring these minor inconsistencies... but still adds to my perception that the DC Film Universe a mess for me

 

[The Realist]

Also, didn't Mera & Arthur interact in JL?

But in Aquaman, it seemed like that was their first time meeting (though i think Mera already knew about Arthur).

Agreed that I had the impression in the theatrical Justice League that Arthur and Mera knew each other, and found it odd in Aquaman when he didn't even know her name. But there's interpretive wiggle room in there. Regardless, there's no way Aquaman isn't post-JL, given the Steppenwolf mention.

 

[Morpheus 02]

Agreed that I had the impression in the theatrical Justice League that Arthur and Mera knew each other, and found it odd in Aquaman when he didn't even know her name. But there's interpretive wiggle room in there. Regardless, there's no way Aquaman isn't post-JL, given the Steppenwolf mention.

But didn't he have his Aquaman costume in JL? (Which he gained through the events in Aquaman)?

DO you remember which scene had the Steppenwolf mention?

 

[Timby]

DO you remember which scene had the Steppenwolf mention?

Mera mentions Steppenwolf when she's trying to recruit Arthur, and says something like "you helped defeat Steppenwolf and you saved Atlantis."

 

[Turtletrekker]

DO you remember which scene had the Steppenwolf mention?

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[JD]

But didn't he have his Aquaman costume in JL? (Which he gained through the events in Aquaman)?

No, the outfit he wore in JL was different from the Aquaman costume he got at the end of his solo movie. You can see both outfits in the DC wiki's gallery.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Spoiler: Snyder reveals Martian Manhunter concept art on his phone during livestream

 

[F. King Daniel]

This whole project is so dumb and weird, I can't wait to see what this train wreck is going to be like. Is he going to end it on the cliffhanger or is he going to give us the Justice League defeating Darkseid? Good grief...

I'd have been happy if Avengers ended with Infinity War, so I'm cool with the cliffhanger ending.

 

[thribs]

He has a plan for JL 2 if this does well.

 

[Anwar]

So Snyder said that if he'd gotten around to it, he'd have cast Carla Gugino as Catwoman to Affleck's Batman.

Idea being, apparently, that she was his ex-wife and she'd retired from being Catwoman to be a rich art dealer. But she and Bruce would reconcile over the course of the Justice League multi-part story.

I AM happy that Snyder realized you'd need an actress closer in age to Affleck for it to work and Carla is always entertaining to watch. And the idea of them having been married at one point as opposed to the usual song-and-dance is another nice idea.