What was "The Burn" and what caused it?

[USS Belmont]

I am sorry if someone already mentioned this, but the Romulans use an artificial singularity to power its warp drive, not dilithium-based anti matter reaction. So they shouldn’t be affected by “The Burn”? Also, I would imagine after more than a thousand years, someone should have found an alternative agent to regulate anti matter reactions than dilithium? We certainly are not using horse-drawn carriage now than 1000 years ago? Even through the concept of external propulsion on a wheeled vehicle is the same.

 

[fireproof78]

I am sorry if someone already mentioned this, but the Romulans use an artificial singularity to power its warp drive, not dilithium-based anti matter reaction. So they shouldn’t be affected by “The Burn”? Also, I would imagine after more than a thousand years, someone should have found an alternative agent to regulate anti matter reactions than dilithium? We certainly are not using horse-drawn carriage now than 1000 years ago? Even through the concept of external propulsion on a wheeled vehicle is the same.

Those are the questions, yes.

 

[SJGardner]

I have a strange feeling that this thread is going to reach 100+ pages in a few weeks.

 

[Fateor]

I have a strange feeling that this thread is going to reach 100+ pages in a few weeks.

That tends to happen when you have giant plot holes in a thing.

 

[fireproof78]

Or you're only one episode in.

 

[Nerys Myk]

am sorry if someone already mentioned this, but the Romulans use an artificial singularity to power its warp drive, not dilithium-based anti matter reaction. So they shouldn’t be affected by “The Burn”?

We haven't seen any Romulans the effect of the Burn on them and their technology is unknown. Could be there were no Romulan states at the time of the fall. Singularity drives may have fallen into disfavor between the 24th Century and the 31st. Stay tuned to find out.

Also, I would imagine after more than a thousand years, someone should have found an alternative agent to regulate anti matter reactions than dilithium? We certainly are not using horse-drawn carriage now than 1000 years ago? Even through the concept of external propulsion on a wheeled vehicle is the same.

We also used horse power as a primary means of transportation for millennia because we hadn't found anything better until steam and petroleum powered vehicles. Sometimes progress in an area tech plateaus for a while.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Or you're only one episode in.

Facts are a pesky thing.

 

[cooleddie74]

We can turn a thread about warp nacelles of a different color into 500 pages in a month. Just trust me on this.

 

[NCC-73515]

Daniels never says: "This library...paper books...this was never here in my time. This shouldn't be here at all."

It is sort of amusing that the one visit Archer makes to that century shows an archaic library full of paper and leatherbound books and almost no futuristic technology whatsoever, so either the disaster that destroyed the Federation happened early enough to prevent the tech from Daniels' generation or decade from ever existing or that 31st century humans still loved reading paper books in a physical library setting.

DANIELS: It should be right down there, if it was ever built, and even it was, it will be of no help. All the data's stored electronically.
DANIELS: Books made with paper. There aren't supposed to be books here.

When book's ship is at warp it doesn't seem to be traveling in a straight line, so there was some sort of advancement there.

What's the advancement of meandering around instead of taking the direct route? XD

 

[Charles Phipps]

England has been around for over 1000 years....

It's also had about a dozen dynasties, governments, and was dissolved into a United Kingdom.

 

[Charles Phipps]

I hope that the Dilithium explosion was completely natural and not an attack or a godlike being. Just the equivalent of global warming at work.

 

[cooleddie74]

DANIELS: It should be right down there, if it was ever built, and even it was, it will be of no help. All the data's stored electronically.
DANIELS: Books made with paper. There aren't supposed to be books here.


What's the advancement of meandering around instead of taking the direct route? XD

AH. Thanks for clearing that up. I had a feeling it might have been in the dialogue while I was posting that but was too lazy to check the script.

That confirms that history changed early enough in the timeline that any technology Daniels was familiar with never happened or never got past its early stages. The devastated landscape he saw was of a city that was likely the one he knew in name only.

 

[Tuskin38]

What's the advancement of meandering around instead of taking the direct route? XD

You don’t have to drop out to make course corrections

 

[Nerys Myk]

What's the advancement of meandering around instead of taking the direct route? XD

Recalculating route

 

[Nyotarules]

It's also had about a dozen dynasties, governments, and was dissolved into a United Kingdom.

England was never dissolved, it united with Scotland in 1701, last time I checked I live in England

 

[Skywalker]

It's also had about a dozen dynasties, governments, and was dissolved into a United Kingdom.

Those are just governments, though. England's cultural identity has persisted for over a thousand years. Heck, China's has for more than two thousand. It's not unreasonable for Michael to expect the same of the Federation.

 

[eschaton]

Those are just governments, though. England's cultural identity has persisted for over a thousand years. Heck, China's has for more than two thousand. It's not unreasonable for Michael to expect the same of the Federation.

I've never seen any real evidence the Federation has a culture of its own. It seems like all the member worlds pretty much have their own cultures intact. Earth certainly had a (rather beige/homogenized) culture, but it doesn't seem to have been really influenced by offworlders in any systematic fashion.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I've never seen any real evidence the Federation has a culture of its own. It seems like all the member worlds pretty much have their own cultures intact. Earth certainly had a (rather beige/homogenized) culture, but it doesn't seem to have been really influenced by offworlders in any systematic fashion.

Same can be said of most nation states. Even England has several subcultures, some based on geography.

 

[Noname Given]

We can turn a thread about warp nacelles of a different color into 500 pages in a month. Just trust me on this.

You lie. This board could do it in two weeks It wouldn't take a month.

 

[Nerys Myk]

You lie. This board could do it in two weeks It wouldn't take a month.

Half the posts would be from eddie though.