Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x01 - "That Hope Is You, Part 1"
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Seriously: You can push the thoughts of others away, disagree with them, ignore cultural progression, oversimplify things and celebrate this. But do you think a discussion benefits from such condescending behvior? Why not just discuss without trying to let other people look like idiots?
Oh, I didn't think I was being condescending.
I was ridiculing. And giving context.
But if I was out of line, sorry. It won't happen again.
A half-drunken Scotty beat up Klingons on Deep Space Station K-7. And before you go: "Wait, those are Augment Klingons so they'd be weaker and less physically imposing" remember that the whole point of introducing Human Augment DNA into the Klingon genome was to strengthen them and make them even more physically powerful than regular Klingons.
Fine. I will accept your obviously sincere apologie and give you a pass this time. And you misread my comment. I concede you the right to write and be as snarky as you want. I only wanted to know if you think that this contributes to a productive duscussion culture.
Apparently the Worf effect ( https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect ) predated Worf.
Chekov picked the wrong Klingon though,
The giant gaping hole in the station that's been there since the burn...
I mean... Even an Ensign could have fixed that by now given all the time that's passed... Hell, even a single one of those repair robots from the 23rd century could have fixed that by now.
Chekov picked the wrong Klingon though,
Yeah, of all the Klingons in the bar Chekov picks the one with the facial scar and the bodybuilder physique.
No, I understood you, I just didn't take it that serious.
I was ridiculing the argument, not the person. I understood his argument. I made a joke about it, then I moved on.
And if ridiculing an argument is going too far, then I won't.
The absence of those drones is too funny. "should we produce drones to make the work for our personal easyer and safer?", "Nah...let chief O'Brien crawl around the jeffries tubes. His life is pure torture anyway so he can take this too."
That's 99.9 % of all Trek tech. It has Earth shaterring implications and will never be discussed again. The Federation is shown to be reluctant to automate everything, and installing back ups upon back upon because they are concerned with failure. And, given the whole Control and M5 debacle who can blame them?
Now I think that I took it to serious and feel like an asshole....
Sarcasm is very difficult in a text based medium.
In real life I am sarcastic all the time. Online, I feel the need to explain everything because my humor doesn't read. It's disappointing.
In real life I am sarcastic all the time. Online, I feel the need to explain everything because my humor doesn't read. It's disappointing.
Yeah you have a point there. I mean: they didnt have to give them AI...
Anyway. One probably should not give them shit for not forseeing that drones one day become a thing. On the other hand they underuse some in univese technologies like the transporter for example. This concept is so broken, one should think they use transporters and replicators for everything.....but nope.
Nothing I say or I see being said on here I take serious... seriously.
So when I say things, yeah, don't take me serious. Because I'm not.
And we're talking about a science fiction show with make-believe technology. And a touch of morality lessons.
It ain't that deep.
EDIT: And you can have the last word if you want so we can be done.
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This is where, as cliche as it sounds, the idea of it being a TV show has to be kept in mind. The reality is that probes and drones would be far more prevalent in exploration. The captain is not going to be the man to lead down to dangerous situations. The transporter can cure aging which means that and other illness should be more manageable, including Picard's. Also, there was a situation where the airlocks on DS9 were not hoping fast enough and they needed to get people off a ship...but they didn't use the transporter?
It just comes down to drama, pure and simple. Now, mileage will vary if the person actually like said drama.
Yup. If you think about that transporters only exist because the budget for a shuttle wasn't there it becomes obvious that the idea of transporters was not well thought out. And anyway I always thought that Star Trek works better as an allegory. This way the lack of diversity within alien species is less questionable. (well that became better over time but still...) In general I find immersion and realism overrated.
Maybe, we humans have been secretly increasing humanities average physical capabilities and ability to live longer over time.
Maybe the new average age of death for humans is in the 130-140's by the 24th century?
McCoy was 137 y/o and still moving about.
Picard was 94 y/o and still moving around just fine, if he didn't have that brain abnormality, we could've potentially seen him living even longer than McCoy.
Remember in ST:ENT, the average human officer had issues with Vulcan's due to the Strength differential.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Vulcan#Physiology
Vulcans were, on average, three times physically stronger than Humans, and had considerably faster reflexes.
But by the time of ST:TNG the difference isn't as drastic as it used to be.
Maybe we're catching up gradually over time through slow genetic enhancements that are secretly being imparted on Children as they are born, part of a larger gradual conspiracy to raise humanities toughness to match all our fellow Federation members so that there is no physical capability gap along with the abilitiy to live longer?
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