I thought they were closer but Freeman waved them off; saying that it was probably a false alarm.
Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x10 - "No Small Parts"
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either the distress call actually got out or they had been monitoring the situation with long range sensors after getting the Solvang’s one.
Speaking of sensors, they should have detected the debris long before they warped in. It was very JJ Trek that. Confusing warp with hyperspace
yes, that was very annoying. Unfortunately seems to be the new norm also on Picard and discovery (but not on the rest of lower decks)
Sensors have always worked as a plot device.
Look at "Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan". You really want me to believe that a federation starship's sensors couldn't tell that a planet was missing/a new debris field was in a star system they had previously mapped; and could tell that a planet's orbit was not exactly what it was before?
(Or are you really trying to claim that when Ceti Alpha VI exploded, It shifted Ceti Alpha V exactly into the same orbit it had previously occupied?
That seemed to me an issue with the map, not the sensors.
The majority of the people voted, myself included, gave this episode a "10." Are the writers of Discovery and Picard kicking themselves after seeing an animated Trek show, of all shows, was able to deliver a season finale that gave us character development for our main characters from the beginning of the season to the end (well, maybe not so much for Tendi), the correct use of the Riker/Troi cameo (and the ship they arrived in, and the music that accompanied it), a high-stakes space battle that showed you can do so much with very FEW starships on the screen at once, make best use of the existing Star Trek canon (and not have to reinvent the wheel), and still deliver a highly satisfactory season finale I haven't enjoyed since DS9 went off the air over two decades ago. As others have noted, this was writing quality of a Trek finale fans have wanted for so many years.
Writers of Discovery and Picard: feel free to chime in on this board!
Writers of Discovery and Picard: feel free to chime in on this board!
The majority of the people voted, myself included, gave this episode a "10." Are the writers of Discovery and Picard kicking themselves after seeing an animated Trek show, of all shows, was able to deliver a season finale that gave us character development for our main characters from the beginning of the season to the end (well, maybe not so much for Tendi), the correct use of the Riker/Troi cameo (and the ship they arrived in, and the music that accompanied it), a high-stakes space battle that showed you can do so much with very FEW starships on the screen at once, make best use of the existing Star Trek canon (and not have to reinvent the wheel), and still deliver a highly satisfactory season finale I haven't enjoyed since DS9 went off the air over two decades ago. As others have noted, this was writing quality of a Trek finale fans have wanted for so many years.
Writers of Discovery and Picard: feel free to chime in on this board!
The show is produced by Alex Kurtzman. So, yes ... I'm sure he's aware of it.
I thought the writing of LDS was somewhat uneven this season (too much fan service for my taste).
I voted a 10 because I like the episode. as a season finale it was nothing special per se it was just a good episode.The majority of the people voted, myself included, gave this episode a "10." Are the writers of Discovery and Picard kicking themselves after seeing an animated Trek show, of all shows, was able to deliver a season finale that gave us character development for our main characters from the beginning of the season to the end (well, maybe not so much for Tendi), the correct use of the Riker/Troi cameo (and the ship they arrived in, and the music that accompanied it), a high-stakes space battle that showed you can do so much with very FEW starships on the screen at once, make best use of the existing Star Trek canon (and not have to reinvent the wheel), and still deliver a highly satisfactory season finale I haven't enjoyed since DS9 went off the air over two decades ago. As others have noted, this was writing quality of a Trek finale fans have wanted for so many years.
Writers of Discovery and Picard: feel free to chime in on this board!
And as finelli's go while I like DS9 as a series; it's serious finale was nothing to write home about. The whole thing with Sisko going off to face Pah Wraith Dukat was just so by the numbers and so contrived; not to mention Mama wormhole alien "calling Sisko home" (especially considering the effect we saw Cisco disappearing for the rest of Jake's life had in DS9's "The Visitor").
And let's not forget what Ira Steven Behr wanted to really do for the DS9 finale... Yeah I'm sure fans would have loved to know that DS9 was just the fevered dream of some 1950s African American science fiction writer.
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more than kicking themselves I hope they’re taking notes.The majority of the people voted, myself included, gave this episode a "10." Are the writers of Discovery and Picard kicking themselves after seeing an animated Trek show, of all shows, was able to deliver a season finale that gave us character development for our main characters from the beginning of the season to the end (well, maybe not so much for Tendi), the correct use of the Riker/Troi cameo (and the ship they arrived in, and the music that accompanied it), a high-stakes space battle that showed you can do so much with very FEW starships on the screen at once, make best use of the existing Star Trek canon (and not have to reinvent the wheel), and still deliver a highly satisfactory season finale I haven't enjoyed since DS9 went off the air over two decades ago. As others have noted, this was writing quality of a Trek finale fans have wanted for so many years.
Writers of Discovery and Picard: feel free to chime in on this board!
Writers of Discovery and Picard: feel free to chime in on this board!
They write themselves into corners because they keep trying to one up what has come before. Something like "The Best of Both Worlds" is special exactly because it isn't the norm, they keep trying to make it the norm in their storytelling. Some folks like it, I'm more for quiet stories with limited stakes.
Probably not.
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I still think that McMahan is weaker writer than others, but at least this time humor was better realized than in "Second contact". In the most cases I would say that smuggling TOS abrivation into joke would be incredibly cheap, but this show pulled it with class. However I think that crew´s reaction on the fact that Mariner is captain´s daughter felt by the numbers.
I am however sucker for classical space opera action so this felt satisfying. And the originators of this space opera action aaaaare...
PAKLEDS! This alone was worth of a wide smile and it fitted te show like a shoe and I was grateful for both inclusion of Titan and the return of Badgey. However, Riker mentioning he plays Enterprise holonovels brought back sore memories....
All in all, very good season. After times of the first two episodes, which I feel to this moment were kinda rushed out, I am relieved things turned out to be alright!
I still think that McMahan is weaker writer than others, but at least this time humor was better realized than in "Second contact". In the most cases I would say that smuggling TOS abrivation into joke would be incredibly cheap, but this show pulled it with class. However I think that crew´s reaction on the fact that Mariner is captain´s daughter felt by the numbers.
I am however sucker for classical space opera action so this felt satisfying. And the originators of this space opera action aaaaare...
PAKLEDS! This alone was worth of a wide smile and it fitted te show like a shoe and I was grateful for both inclusion of Titan and the return of Badgey. However, Riker mentioning he plays Enterprise holonovels brought back sore memories....
All in all, very good season. After times of the first two episodes, which I feel to this moment were kinda rushed out, I am relieved things turned out to be alright!
A well-made conclusion of a decent season, I just don't like that Mariner knows Riker (Small Universe Syndrome).
Boimler will probably return in the 1st or 2nd ep. of S02. He starts to miss his friends and colleagues from the Cerritos, and after talking to Riker about it - who should sympathize with him after 15 years as cmdr./XO of the same crew - he gets sent back. At least that's what I expect, would be nice if he keeps his new rank.
I have never been keen on the design of the (novel) Titan, but it doesn't look bad in motion.
Interestingly, the Solvang is a brand-new ship with a very low registry number, NCC-12101 which is even lower than their previous one, the Rubidoux NCC-12109.
I didn't get the impression that the audience is supposed to care too much, there is a brief funeral scene, but aside from that nobody seems overly sad or devastated by the loss except for the doctor most likely, the only person he was close to as far as we know, whose reaction isn't even shown.
"It’s not the best thing ever but it’s the best thing I’ve got so far in this new era of Trek."
Fixed it for you.
Oh please... It may have something to do with the Narada's drill platform which is noted to jam stuff. As for this LDS ep., the plasma ring close to the star could be the jamming source or possibly the Pakled vessel.
More importantly - and as already mentioned by NoGrave Dug - sensor range and capabilities are not consistent. In DS9 "Broken Link" a small fleet of Jem'Hadar fighters immediately arrives at the Defiant's location after being detected.
No.
Good one. Apparently it's okay that sensors can't even count the planets of a system now, or the crew is too lazy or incompetent to use them properly while searching for a suitable planetary body in order to conduct an experiment.
What is the "the correct use of the Riker/Troi cameo"?
The wheel hasn't been reinvented btw.
Boimler will probably return in the 1st or 2nd ep. of S02. He starts to miss his friends and colleagues from the Cerritos, and after talking to Riker about it - who should sympathize with him after 15 years as cmdr./XO of the same crew - he gets sent back. At least that's what I expect, would be nice if he keeps his new rank.
I have never been keen on the design of the (novel) Titan, but it doesn't look bad in motion.
Interestingly, the Solvang is a brand-new ship with a very low registry number, NCC-12101 which is even lower than their previous one, the Rubidoux NCC-12109.
I didn't get the impression that the audience is supposed to care too much, there is a brief funeral scene, but aside from that nobody seems overly sad or devastated by the loss except for the doctor most likely, the only person he was close to as far as we know, whose reaction isn't even shown.
"It’s not the best thing ever but it’s the best thing I’ve got so far in this new era of Trek."
Fixed it for you.
Oh please... It may have something to do with the Narada's drill platform which is noted to jam stuff. As for this LDS ep., the plasma ring close to the star could be the jamming source or possibly the Pakled vessel.
More importantly - and as already mentioned by NoGrave Dug - sensor range and capabilities are not consistent. In DS9 "Broken Link" a small fleet of Jem'Hadar fighters immediately arrives at the Defiant's location after being detected.
No.
Good one. Apparently it's okay that sensors can't even count the planets of a system now, or the crew is too lazy or incompetent to use them properly while searching for a suitable planetary body in order to conduct an experiment.
What is the "the correct use of the Riker/Troi cameo"?
The wheel hasn't been reinvented btw.
Maybe Starfleet started over in their numbering scheme at some point? Rather than go to six-digit registry numbers.
Less dreary than the Picard appearance, that's for sure.
Didn't the U.S.S. Emmett Till in the DS9 documentary and "Season 8" animated storyline have a four-digit registry number? That was definitely a starship class from the 2370s so if that ship is even remotely canon to CBS and Paramount it would be another example of a recent Starfleet vessel with an unusually low registry number. Stuart Foley from Trekyards makes a big point of the numbers not necessarily making any sense.
Par for the course for Trek. I figure the Rubidoux and Solvang were newer build California-class ships than the Cerritos.
Yeah, I hate it when shows do this, too. And I agree that Boimler should definitely keep his rank when he does get back to the Cerritos.
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