News Complete 1st Season to Air on CBS terrestrial in Sept

[Isaac Lawrence]

I guess it is how it was handled. If you're staying in the same era and everyone is referencing everyone else then it is smaller. If you are tackling different facets of the same era without referencing other shows then maybe it could work that way.

Mostly I am talking bigger in the sense that not everyone knows everyone else. The galaxy is big, even in one era, and having Pike know everyone is making it small.

Yeah, by me saying "connect" I didn't mean it in that way, so it was a poor choice of words.

I should have just stuck with set it all in the same timeline. Like I first said:

The goal is to have Star Trek always on, so it'll be interesting (to me, at least) to see Star Trek done in "real time." Have Star Trek running 45 or 50 weeks out of the year, and have multiple shows, but every few weeks or so you jump from one show to the next. You see what's going on for x amount of weeks on a show with a seasoned crew, and when we look in this time we see that they're on their way to whatever (a diplomatic mission to Alderaan... wait), and then you go over and check in for a couple of weeks on a Star Trek show set on earth at Starfleet Headquarters or something. Then go off and follow a new crew for about a month as they begin their new five-year mission. And so on...

Whether they know each other or not isn't important. And you're right, everyone knowing each other does make it small. And I personally don't like that kind of story telling, anyway.

(And as an aside, given that Michael Burnham is my favorite character: it's fine that Burnham and Spock are "related." But if she had no connection whatsoever with Spock it wouldn't have changed anything for me as it pertains to the character. It probably would have made her a better character, in my opinion. As it stands, it's like, "Okay, that was neat. You didn't have to do it, but it was neat.")

Anyway, so I say just put it all at the same time. "Connect" it that way.

 

[fireproof78]

Anyway, so I say just put it all at the same time. "Connect" it that way.

That's a fair clarification. I still don't see the benefit of having all the same era.

 

[The Wormhole]

Honestly, the only real benefit to having multiple shows in the same era would be production related, allow the shows to save budget by using the same sets props and costumes among the multiple shows. Even that seems somewhat negated since Picard reused several sets and ships from Disco, while SNW is using completely different sets and costumes from Disco.

 

[Isaac Lawrence]

Honestly, the only real benefit to having multiple shows in the same era would be production related, allow the shows to save budget by using the same sets props and costumes among the multiple shows. Even that seems somewhat negated since Picard reused several sets and ships from Disco, while SNW is using completely different sets and costumes from Disco.

I wonder will Strange New Worlds get the same complaints about the technology looking more advanced than The Original Series (or The Next Generation era, for that matter)?

I think I've seen some, but not at the level that Discovery got; and I guess Discovery is "special" in that regard and Strange New Worlds will probably largely get a pass.

But this is the reason why I say set everything in the same era. Set it way out in the future and knock yourself out, create whatever wild tech you want to create.

And speaking of which, is this a widespread or long-held feeling in the Star Trek community of wanting shows set in different eras? I didn't think people liked prequels. I know I don't. I just accept Discovery because in my head canon it's as separate from the Prime Timeline as the Kelvin Timeline movies.

It's the Michael Burnham Timeline.

No, the Discovery Timeline is better.

No, but I'm one of those people where Discovery is basically a reboot of Star Trek as far as I'm concerned. Picard is still obviously the Prime Timeline, but anything Discovery-related is the Michael Burnham Timeline to me. And it'll be funny if they take a page from the movies and establish that in season 3 (yeah, yeah, yeah, season 2 finale negates that, but whatever... they can just say it was always so).

EDIT: *And I forgot watch to Discovery on CBS last night. Arrgh.

 

[CorporalClegg]

The would-be response of a few loud, obnoxious fans should never be used as reasoning to do something or not.

 

[Quinton]

Amusingly enough, the second episode ticked up from a 0.2 to a 0.3. It also held a 1.7 million overall viewership.

I still expect that to drop soon enough but wow. Not bad.

 

[Isaac Lawrence]

So...

After a slow start to life in the broadcast galaxy, “Star Trek: Discovery” gained a little this time around. The second episode of the show’s broadcast run scored a 0.3 rating (up from a 0.2 for the premiere) and 1.7 million total viewers. CBS won the night overall, mainly thanks to “Big Brother” which came in at a 1.1 rating and 4.2 million total viewers. That represents almost exactly the same scores in both metrics as last Thursday.

via Variety

...yeah.

I wonder will the YouTube guys make videos saying it went up? No, probably not?

Anyway, the ratings are inline with what CBS gets every Thursday night at that time slot, so yep...

I predict it'll do about the same every week until the Mirror Universe episodes, then the ratings will crater.

 

[Cyrus]

2nd episode doing better could be because it was its first airing ever on CBS. The first episode was shown on CBS 3 years ago. So those Trek fans too cheap to pay for CBS AA can now catch up on the first season.

 

[fireproof78]

those Trek fans too cheap to pay for CBS AA can now catch up on the first season.

What's funny to me is I hear people talking about a "new Trek" on TV and excited to watch it.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

I mean, why? The goal is Star Trek on all the time, but also to spread it out in a way that it appeals to as many demographics as possible. Shoving it all in to the same century is a step backwards, to my mind.

Not every show will appeal to every fan and that should be the ultimate goal of CBS. That some will like a little bit of A and B, while others will like B and C. It's crafting diversity of storytelling that invites in others who might be put off by one show, or trying to understand the 50+ years of Trek.

I too think CBS covering different eras is refreshing.

Truthfully, there was no reason for 90s Berman era to all be set at the same time. DS9 was initially supposed to interact a lot more with TNG at the start before Piller decided to have it stand on its own starting with the second season. Had they decided not to do any crossovers in the first season, it could have been set in a different century. VOYAGER could have easily been set during any era, since it took place in the other side of the galaxy.

I remember in 2001 ENT simply switching to the 22nd century felt like the freshest thing the franchise ever did at the time. Too bad everything else about those early seasons just felt like reheats of what TNG/DS9/VOY already did.

 

[Vger23]

The would-be response of a few loud, obnoxious fans should never be used as reasoning to do something or not.

You are correct, sir.

 

[Isaac Lawrence]

A quick check in on the ratings for this week, for those who may be curious, and the numbers are steady, or up, or are okay, or...

Anyway, so September 24th:

10:00 p.m.
ABC – Match Game (time period premiere) Viewers: 3.00 million (#2), A18-49: 0.2/ 1 (#3)
CBS – Star Trek: Discovery (network premiere) Viewers: 1.65 million (#3), A18-49: 0.2/ 1 (#3)
NBC – Dateline Viewers: 3.16 million (#1), A18-49: 0.5/ 3 (#1)
—–
10:30 p.m.
ABC – Match Game (time period premiere) Viewers: 2.82 million (#2), A18-49: 0.5/ 3 (#1t)
CBS – Star Trek: Discovery (network premiere) Viewers: 1.70 million (#3), A18-49: 0.2/ 1 (#3)
NBC – Dateline Viewers: 3.61 million (#1), A18-49: 0.5/ 3 (#1t)

Source: Nielsen Media Research

October 1st:

10:00 p.m.
ABC – The Match Game Viewers: 3.19 million (#1), A18-49: 0.5/ 3 (#1t)
CBS – Star Trek: Discovery Viewers: 1.80 million (#3), A18-49: 0.3/ 2 (#3)
NBC – Dateline Viewers: 3.04 million (#2), A18-49: 0.5/ 3 (#1t)
—–
10:30 p.m. ABC – The Match Game Viewers: 3.01 million (#2), A18-49: 0.5/ 3 (#1t)
CBS – Star Trek: Discovery Viewers: 1.58 million (#3), A18-49: 0.2/ 2 (#3)
NBC – Dateline Viewers: 3.09 million (#1), A18-49: 0.5/ 3 (#1t)

(They had it listed as Star Trek: The Next Generation, but that's obviously a typo)
Source: Nielsen Media Research

And October 8th:

10:00 p.m.
ABC – Match Game Viewers: 2.51 million (#3), A18-49: 0.4/ 2 (#2t)
CBS – Star Trek: Discovery Viewers: 1.81 million (#4), A18-49: 0.2/ 1 (#4)
NBC – Dateline Viewers: 2.81 million (#2), A18-49: 0.4/ 2 (#2t)
Fox – Thursday Night Football (Tampa Bay at Chicago) Viewers: 10.16 million (#1), A18-49: 3.1/18 (#1)
—–
10:30 p.m.
ABC – Match Game Viewers: 2.36 million (#3), A18-49: 0.3/ 2 (#3)
CBS – Star Trek: Discovery Viewers: 1.81 million (#4), A18-49: 0.2/ 1 (#4)
NBC – Dateline Viewers: 2.80 million (#2), A18-49: 0.4/ 2 (#2)
Fox – Thursday Night Football (Tampa Bay at Chicago) Viewers: 10.38 million (#1), A18-49: 3.2/21 (#1)

Source: Nielsen Media Research

The next two Thursday's are Presidential debates (if they happen).

In all, I guess there's not really much to say, it's doing normal CBS Thursday night numbers. The numbers will eventually fall, but at this point it's kind of like "whatever," the new season is here.

 

[Lord Garth]

The next two Thursday's are Presidential debates (if they happen).

Then I'm definitely watching Disco instead.

After the train wreck that was the last "debate", I'm all set with whatever the Hell that was.

 

[Cyrus]

I watched the beginning of last night's episode on CBS. The entire opening credit sequence was cut, except for the couple of seconds that had the title of the show, to make room for commercials.

 

[Isaac Lawrence]

Then I'm definitely watching Disco instead.

After the train wreck that was the last "debate", I'm all set with whatever the Hell that was.

I was going to make a political comment, but I said no, just say "if they happen" and leave it at that.

I watched the beginning of last night's episode on CBS. The entire opening credit sequence was cut, except for the couple of seconds that had the title of the show, to make room for commercials.

Yeah, I noticed that.

I love that opening, it brings back the feels of The Original Series opening.

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Obviously looking forward to whatever changes they make to it for this season.

 

[RAMA]

Share is down, but viewers up in week 3: 1.8 million. Not bad for a 3 yr old show at 10pm.

Fittingly up in a classic episode!

RAMA

 

[Quinton]

Share is down, but viewers up in week 3: 1.8 million. Not bad for a 3 yr old show at 10pm.

Fittingly up in a classic episode!

RAMA

I feel like anybody watching for the first time has a decent chance of being hooked at this point now that 1x03 has been seen.

 

[Lord Garth]

I'm glad it moved upward. It shows that DSC hooked whoever it grabbed watching it that way and they told other people about it.

 

[RAMA]

I noticed some new viewers on Twitter raving about the show. So it's a net overall gain in audience for cbsaa in my opinion.

I'm glad it moved upward. It shows that DSC hooked whoever it grabbed watching it that way and they told other people about it.

 

[BillJ]

I think I've seen some, but not at the level that Discovery got; and I guess Discovery is "special" in that regard and Strange New Worlds will probably largely get a pass.

Strange New Worlds will largely get a pass because the changes have already been made to the look of the universe. We've talked about the changes, pro and con, and have moved on.