Does the Enterprise still pick up Kes and/or Neelix?
What if the Enterprise were thrown into the Delta Quadrant?
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Why not? Though maybe they're like Guinan and Ogawa – occasional guest-stars. I'm also seeing them very different. Neelix less annoying. Still funny, but half as a coping mechanism from the horror he escaped. Half a step closer to Wixiban.
Kes maybe in a rivalry episode with Ogawa in a followup to TNG's "Lower Decks." Maybe Ogawa feels the new girl is getting fast where it took her years (maybe on account of Ocampans' shorter lifespan they learn faster), maybe she's even talking to her fiancé-to-be Andrew(!) and Ogawa's having none of it at the weekly card game with Lavelle & Co. Come to think of it...Taurik v. Vorik!
She "beats up" The Rock, not fights.
Would be interesting to see Kes/Troi interactions then, i guess the task of helping Kes develop her powers would fall to her.
I agree with making Neelix a guest star, but I do think Kes is interesting enough of a character to make her a main character, especially in the hands of the TNG writers.
Plus with her in the catsuits, they could give Troi a standard uniform.
Seven will also be interesting if she comes on board, especially her and Picard's relationship.
I don't know if Picard would be the one to help her on that journey. At times I wondered if it would have been Janeway's in another setting. But maybe. He did help Data. I wonder if there would be any sexual tension as with Kamala if not in the same way.
If not Picard I wonder who. Troi would be the professional therapist and there'd be a relationship there, but would that be her primary "in" to individualism and humanity? Would it be a sexual tension with someone (where Seven is pursuer or not) or a friendship or... Actually, it would be hilarious if she's in love with *cyborg Geordi of all people. Only he's rebuffing her advances because she doesn't especially like Data – a holdover of her Borg opinion of him as abominable inferiority, say.
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Maybe the Borg queen would have come out of hiding and confronted the crew of the Enterprise D and Picard a lot sooner than what she did with Janeway and Voyager? 
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Picard would be looking for tea in nebulas. Other than that, same as Voyager,
"There just might be some Earl Grey hidden in that nebula, wouldn't you agree, numbah One?"
Confrontations with the Kazon would have been less violent, as he simple would have bored them to death with long-winded speeches about how he refuses to "irrevocably" interfere in the affairs of the DQ.
Joking aside, I'm not sure he would have blown up the Array -- after all, it is of course heavily interfering with the DQ state of affairs, no matter how noble the goal of protecting the Ocampa. (But not saying he wouldn't have blown it up either).
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He might not have had to. The Enterprise was larger, more powerful, and had more photon torpedoes. It might have sent the Kazon fleeing with their tails between their legs, which would have allowed a more thorough examination of the Caretaker tech. Voyager destroyed the array because the Kazon were present and shooting at them, and there was no time to figure out a better solution.
How would the Enterprise survive without all those ancient Maquis tricks
Do you mean Chekotay's "ancient rituals" that were really made up by a bunch of white writers and a conman?
I think Picard can survive without finding his animal companion
The Enterprise and the Kazon will be as effective as the writers need them to be.
No Torres old Maquis tricks that got them out of every jamDo you mean Chekotay's "ancient rituals" that were really made up by a bunch of white writers and a conman?
I think Picard can survive without finding his animal companion
I'd bet we'd just get a lot of "Back when I was a young Captain on the Stargazer, we were once chased by ...." lines instead
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This is an important question to resolve. What is the premise here -- Enterprise is transported to the Delta Quadrant or Enterprise replaces Voyager in Voyager's exact premise? Which Enterprise are we talking about -- D or E? First season, seventh season, what?
The answers to these questions will determine what crew are aboard Enterprise, what the ship's capabilities are, etcetera. If we're literally inserting the Enterprise into Voyager's concept then a lot of people's thoughts wouldn't pan out in the same way as they think because most of the senior staff were killed in Caretaker, including the Chief Medical Officer (now Crusher) and the medical staff (sorry Nurse Ogawa), First Officer (Riker here), helmsman (this is various people, so it's up for personal choice), and Chief Engineer (poor Geordi in this set-up.)
Further, Harry Kim and Tuvok wouldn't be onboard either because Kim was assigned to Voyager and it would have been Enterprise's tactical officer (Worf or Tasha Yar depending on the time period) undercover with Chakotay's Maquis.
If the Enterprise would have been thrown into the Delta quadrant it would not have taken 7 years to get back. Picard would have had the Caretaker array destroyed by a timebomb or remotely after it would have returned Enterprise to the Alpha quadrant.
This isn't actually possible if we're proceeding with the exact premise of the "Voyager" premiere (Caretaker.) People often act otherwise in the fandom (perhaps because later in the series her own guilt makes her feel as if she is), but Janeway is not responsible for trapping her crew in the Delta Quadrant. She LITERALLY had no other choice.
JANEWAY: We need you to send us back where we came from.
CARETAKER: That isn't possible. I've barely enough strength to complete my work.
JANEWAY: You're sealing the conduits before you die.
CARETAKER: If I don't, the Kazon will steal the water.
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TUVOK: Captain, I can access the system to send us back to Federation space, but it will take several hours to activate.
JANEWAY: Unless you help us.
CARETAKER: Oh, I wish I could but I have very little time left, so I have initiated a self-destruct program.
JANEWAY: If you destroy the Array, we'll have no way to get home.
CARETAKER: The Ocampa's enemies can not be allowed to control this installation. In minutes, it'll be destroyed. You have to go. Go now.
The Caretaker refused to send them home because he was dying and he only had enough life left to finish protecting the Ocampa. Tuvok could have operated the array himself, but activating it would have taken him SEVERAL HOURS to do.
He did not have the time to do so, though, because the Kazon had vessels outside the station attacking them (three at this point, two around the size of the Val Jean and one much larger than Voyager itself) and were presumed to have more reinforcements on the way (something confirmed by Jabin when Janeway returned to Voyager.)
JANEWAY: Open a channel to the Kazon.
KIM: Channel open.
JABIN [on viewscreen]: Be advised, Captain. I have called for additional ships.
Yes, in the episode, after the self destruct is knocked out by a Kazon ship exploding against the array, Tuvok asks if he should activate the program, and the Captain moralizes aloud about not leaving the array in the hands of the Kazon, but the truth is she really had no choice. He was just asking if she wanted to TRY to hold off the attacking vessels and use the array. Given it would have taken hours by his own statement (not contradicted by the Caretaker), all while under attack by continuing waves of Kazon, it would have been suicidal to try. She did the only thing she could have.
It isn't actually interfering with the internal affairs of the Delta Quadrant, though, and contrary to many claims I've seen over the years, it doesn't violate the Prime Directive.
1. The crew of Voyager was dealing with two warp capable species (the Kazon and the Nacene) and one species with knowledge of interstellar travel (the Ocamp), so it doesn't violate that aspect of the Directive.
2. They were dragged into these events against their will and were forced to be a part of those events, being abducted, drugged, experimented on, two of their crewmen were removed, forcing them to recover them, and they were threatened and attacked by the Kazon.
3. Their assistance was directly requested by the Caretaker (a participant in these events), asking them to destroy his own property.
4. Destroying the array kept it out of the hands of the Kazon (or any other species) and, in fact, they were PRESERVING the balance of the quadrant, and as a result preserving the state of those internal affairs.
As Janeway said, they didn't ask to be a part of these events, but they were, whether they wanted it or not. Whatever action they took would have been affecting the affairs of the entire quadrant, and they were a part of those affairs now.
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Tasha, Chief Engineer Argyle, senior-most chief medical officer Pulaski, and the original transporter chief could have all died in the initial catapult to the Delta Quadrant. That gets you Worf, La Forge, Crusher, and O'Brien in their subsequent season positions. Heck, maybe Guinan is initially just visiting Picard to wish him a happy voyage, then takes the Ten Forward position when the original bartender Sandrine dies too. ...or is that Neelix takes the job when Guinan dies...? Nah, Guinan was too much fun; he can be on her staff (along with Ben and other "Lower Decks"-like characters) because the episode where they visit Guinan's Delta Quadrant homeworld would be too much to pass up. ...Maybe it's her drone father the Borg Queen shocks us with, not Seven's. Guinan had a lot of baggage there.
Also, it would be a heck of a story from the perspective of the Alpha Quadrant when their flagship (the Enterprise itself!) is lost on its maiden voyage. Maybe it's even seen as a cursed ship, given the fate of the earlier Enterprise and whatever took them 22 years between its loss and then to launch of this one. Then they find out years later it's returned from the farthest reaches of the galaxy! Someone's got to make a holonovel about that one.
Also, it would be a heck of a story from the perspective of the Alpha Quadrant when their flagship (the Enterprise itself!) is lost on its maiden voyage. Maybe it's even seen as a cursed ship, given the fate of the earlier Enterprise and whatever took them 22 years between its loss and then to launch of this one. Then they find out years later it's returned from the farthest reaches of the galaxy! Someone's got to make a holonovel about that one.
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