Spoilers What are your unpopular Sci-Fi & Fantasy Opinions?

[Orphalesion]

I have never been able to gain any enjoyment from Zombie movies.
The whole scenario is just so disgusting and unappealing.

Plus most of the time the characters are assholes.

 

[Imaus]

I've tried many times through the course of my life to give Dune a chance.



It's been a failure every single time.

Dune is the most overrated piece of literature of the 20th century.

The old film is terrible and the new one doesn't look much better.

Dune's problem is that nothing about it is personally appealing, eg, the eight dreaded words crop up fast and quick: "I don't care what happens to these people". The Empire is terrible. The Guild is terrible, though pragmatic. The houses suck, including Arteides. The Fremen aren't appealing. The general state of affairs is terrible and has produced terrible people. Of all things, Ix is the only shining light to a modern reader and we barely cover Ix, much less in the first book while they expand in the others.

Paul isn't a relatable figure, he has some problems 'taking the mantle', sure, but this guy unleashed a galactic JIHAD that kills sixty billion people, because the alternative was...not seeking revenge. Not Crusade, as the modern movie wants to say, we're talking full blown near daeshi level Jihad, the difference being that the Fremen only 'stemmed' from Islamic roots and aren't Islamic anymore, but make Baghdadi and Khan alike look like amateurs.

Everytime I pick up the book or gaze over the lore, there's just nothing to really root for. Nobles doing noble shit, then going on whacky ESP level stuff. Meh.

 

[Orphalesion]

Dune's problem is that nothing about it is personally appealing, eg, the eight dreaded words crop up fast and quick: "I don't care what happens to these people". The Empire is terrible. The Guild is terrible, though pragmatic. The houses suck, including Arteides. The Fremen aren't appealing. The general state of affairs is terrible and has produced terrible people. Of all things, Ix is the only shining light to a modern reader and we barely cover Ix, much less in the first book while they expand in the others.

Paul isn't a relatable figure, he has some problems 'taking the mantle', sure, but this guy unleashed a galactic JIHAD that kills sixty billion people, because the alternative was...not seeking revenge. Not Crusade, as the modern movie wants to say, we're talking full blown near daeshi level Jihad, the difference being that the Fremen only 'stemmed' from Islamic roots and aren't Islamic anymore, but make Baghdadi and Khan alike look like amateurs.

Everytime I pick up the book or gaze over the lore, there's just nothing to really root for. Nobles doing noble shit, then going on whacky ESP level stuff. Meh.

Agreed so much, as I wrote earlier that whole universe is just thoroughly disgusting. Paul literally has no other motivation than revenge and personal survival.If freaking Bronn is a more likeable person than your so called "hero" you're in trouble.
It's like A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones with all the likeable aspects/characters removed.

And the following books just get worse and the characters get even less likeable with even less relatable motivations.

 

[fireproof78]

Dune is one of the few books that if I recommend it I don't insist upon continuing forward. It's also a book that breaks two of my rules for stories-that is, having sympathetic characters and making the story about an object rather than about characters. In the instance of Dune the book is all about, um, Dune. It is a book about the planet itself, and over getting to know the planet I come to care more about what happens to it.

But, for those who don't want to read the books, the miniseries does OK.

 

[dupersuper]

The concept of the superhero wearing glasses to deter people from recognising them is stupid, people recognise me all the time glasses or no glasses, whether I wear my cape or my tights

I agree for Lois, Jimmy, et al, but I think it'd work fine for the general public. If you saw the pope in sweatpants at your local grocery store thumping melons, you'd think - if anything at all - "Huh, that guy looks like the pope", and go on with your day.

 

[Schlegelmilch]

Casting Peter Capaldi a middle age man as The Doctor was more daring than casting a young woman.

 

[ToddKent]

The trailer for the new Batman movie looks horrible. When I was watching it I fully expected it to get ripped apart by people online and afterward I was surprised to see so many people praising it. Having a grown man say something like "I am vengeance" (or whatever) is cringe inducing.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I agree for Lois, Jimmy, et al, but I think it'd work fine for the general public. If you saw the pope in sweatpants at your local grocery store thumping melons, you'd think - if anything at all - "Huh, that guy looks like the pope", and go on with your day.

Context can influence perception.
This is the same person

Casting Peter Capaldi a middle age man as The Doctor was more daring than casting a young woman.

Middle Aged man was the default for most of DW's original run. Whittaker's in her mid to late thirties.

 

[Owain Taggart]

I've seen quite a few other people say that, so I'm not sure if it really qualifies as an unpopular opinion.

Oh, I was under the impression from reading comments that it was generally well-liked.

 

[fireproof78]

I agree for Lois, Jimmy, et al, but I think it'd work fine for the general public. If you saw the pope in sweatpants at your local grocery store thumping melons, you'd think - if anything at all - "Huh, that guy looks like the pope", and go on with your day.

The comics also explain it's not just the glasses but Clark Kent's whole persona.

Oh, I was under the impression from reading comments that it was generally well-liked.

Yeah, not been my impression. I enjoyed them but that had struck me as a minority position.

 

[tomalak301]

I was thinking about a couple of the Frozen posts in this thread and the more I think about Frozen 2, the more I think that's a better movie than the original Frozen. My Unpopular Opinion though is Disney sent the wrong song to the Oscars for that movie. Show Yourself is the best song in the Frozen franchise. The scene, the song, and the climax gives me goosebumps every time I hear it, and Idina sang her heart out more than she did for Let it Go.

 

[Gaith]

Oh, I was under the impression from reading comments that it was generally well-liked.

The ASM movies are two different movies, written by different people. (ASM1 has three credited story+screenplay writers; ASM2 has four, and only one of them is credited on both.) ASM1 has a green Metacritic score of 66; ASM2 has a yellow one of 53. That said, I think ASM1's reputation has suffered from the one-two punch of ASM2 being considerably worse, and the MCU Spidey movies from being so good and fresh. So, no, dumping on ASM2, or both movies together, certainly isn't unpopular.

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

^Yeah, slagging off on the Amazing Spider-Man movies is hardly unpopular. I didn't much care for the first one since re-doing the origin story was completely unnecessary. But I liked the 2nd one and I've never understood why people hate it so. I mean that. I've had several instances where I really like a movie that most people don't (Daredevil, Batman v. Superman, Attack of the Clones, et al) and, while I disagree, I totally understand their reasons. But I don't know that I've ever even heard the reasons why people don't like The Amazing Spider-Man 2. They all just seem to assume that I'm seeing the same thing that they're seeing, I guess.

"Oblivion" was a great sci-fi movie, both plot-wise and visually

I'm unaware of the movie having any sort of poor reputation. I enjoyed it, although I wish that the trailers hadn't given away quite as much of the plot as they did.

the first Mad Max is the least-interesting franchise film

I would agree with that. It's not even post-apocalyptic. It's kinda pre-apocalyptic. The world hasn't ended yet but they've fired all the janitors.

Yes, Christopher Reeve was a perfect Superman. But, as a standalone story with a beginning, middle, and end, Smallville's "Pilot" is better than any Superman film. What's more, Thor is more likable and hopeful than Snyder's Superman, and every film featuring Thor is better than every film featuring Superman.

... What, even Age of Ultron and Doctor Strange?

... Yes, them, too.

Yes, I would agree that Superman (1978) is, as a movie, very structurally weak.

And I really like Thor and nearly all of the movies that he's in. (I'm not too keen on how they left things with him in Endgame.) Actually, Doctor Strange is one of my favorite MCU movies. And Age of Ultron, while not as good as The Avengers or Infinity War, is excellent.

Unpopular opinion: Alien 3 is a fucking masterpiece

Agreed. It's not much fun but it's a beautiful piece of cinematic nihilism.

Frozen is nothing but a 90 minute music video for a cheesy pop song that by itself is overrated.

If I had my druthers, it would be illegal to sing "Let It Go" in public. But then, most people would be let off on the technicality that, without the nuanced skill of a professional singer, no one can actually SING that song at all. They're just shouting in tones.

I have never been able to gain any enjoyment from Zombie movies.
The whole scenario is just so disgusting and unappealing.

Plus most of the time the characters are assholes.

Yeah. There are a few zombie stories that I like-- I Am Legend, Shaun of the Dead, Zombie Prom, and then they did a couple of zombie episodes on Buffy/Angel that were OK. But mostly I have no interest in them whatsoever.

 

[Orphalesion]

Yeah. There are a few zombie stories that I like-- I Am Legend, Shaun of the Dead, Zombie Prom, and then they did a couple of zombie episodes on Buffy/Angel that were OK. But mostly I have no interest in them whatsoever.

The only two zombie related things I like are "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" (the book, not the movie) and Warm Bodies.

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

^I forgot Pride & Prejudice & Zombies. I've only seen the movie but I liked it a lot. But then, a lot of that is just because Parson Collins is played by Matt Smith, who is totally still playing the 11th Doctor!

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

BTW, I think that most people have never seen Zombie Prom, since it's a short that never got a wide release. I saw it at a convention back in the late '00s and was only able to see it after that because I begged a burned DVD copy off of the filmmakers. Thankfully, YouTube makes it more widely available:

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[theenglish]

The trailer for the new Batman movie looks horrible. When I was watching it I fully expected it to get ripped apart by people online and afterward I was surprised to see so many people praising it. Having a grown man say something like "I am vengeance" (or whatever) is cringe inducing.

I really like the trailer, but I agree that that line needs to be cut from the movie. Yuck.

Yeah. There are a few zombie stories that I like-- I Am Legend, Shaun of the Dead, Zombie Prom, and then they did a couple of zombie episodes on Buffy/Angel that were OK. But mostly I have no interest in them whatsoever.

No love for Zombieland 1 or 2?

I just thought of a really unpopular opinion that I have, one that may blow up the entire board:

Matrix Reloaded is my favorite film of the trilogy and I also really like Revolutions; in fact I think the entire trilogy really holds up and I love the themes that run throughout.

 

[Orphalesion]

^I forgot Pride & Prejudice & Zombies. I've only seen the movie but I liked it a lot. But then, a lot of that is just because Parson Collins is played by Matt Smith, who is totally still playing the 11th Doctor!

The movie was pretty good, but it was much more a straight-faced action movie, while the book got a lot more humour out of the juxtaposition of English gentry folks being polite and proper and random zombie mayhem. I just wish the movie could have had more of that humour.

BTW, I think that most people have never seen Zombie Prom, since it's a short that never got a wide release. I saw it at a convention back in the late '00s and was only able to see it after that because I begged a burned DVD copy off of the filmmakers. Thankfully, YouTube makes it more widely available:

OMG. This is AMAZING! Thanks for posting that!

See when I say I don't like zombies I mean that I don't like the average zombie media. You know the crap where just a bunch of assholes are horrible to each other/ have to make "though decisions"(tm) and frequently live out some power fantasy by mowing down hordes of disgusting zombies.

However stuff like Zombie Prom? That's something I can get behind! I really wish this was a full-lenght movie! This has everything! Humour! Romance! Ru Paul!
It's the best thing I've seen all month!
I wish I was rich so I could bankroll a full-lenght adaption of Zombie Prom!

 

[Gaith]

But I liked the 2nd one and I've never understood why people hate it so. I mean that. I've had several instances where I really like a movie that most people don't (Daredevil, Batman v. Superman, Attack of the Clones, et al) and, while I disagree, I totally understand their reasons. But I don't know that I've ever even heard the reasons why people don't like The Amazing Spider-Man 2.

Really? The tone is all over the place. The movie immediately breaks the promise made at the end of ASM1 - that the played-out "safety vs. relationship" will they/won't they, already explored in that movie, won't be rehashed again. (And didn't Aunt May already realize Peter was Spider-Man at the end of the last movie?) Introducing Harry Osborn out of nowhere as an old friend of Peter's is a total cheat that unnecessarily reminds us of Raimi's trilogy: why does this particular reality need a Harry at all? Isn't Chris Cooper himself enough?

I don't mind Peter not simply handing Harry a vial of his own blood for potentially life-saving research. But surely there's some potential middle ground between that, and refusing to help him at all? And why is Electro in this movie, exactly? Even apart from Foxx's over-the-top acting, what story purpose does he serve? Why is a romantic relationship song played over a montage of Peter researching what happened to his parents? Why, when no one in either movie has shown any interest in rap/hip-hop, is there a rap song over the closing credits?

And top all this off with the head-smacking realization that yes, they actually filmed a scene of Richard Parker alive and well reuniting with Peter at Gwen's grave, and it's clear the filmmakers had no idea what they were doing. I myself don't hate the movie, and will take it over the bore-fest that is SM3 any day, but its flaws are hardly subtle.

 

[Owain Taggart]

The ASM movies are two different movies, written by different people. (ASM1 has three credited story+screenplay writers; ASM2 has four, and only one of them is credited on both.) ASM1 has a green Metacritic score of 66; ASM2 has a yellow one of 53. That said, I think ASM1's reputation has suffered from the one-two punch of ASM2 being considerably worse, and the MCU Spidey movies from being so good and fresh. So, no, dumping on ASM2, or both movies together, certainly isn't unpopular.

Ok, well I at least feel better I'm not alone in slagging them

The thing I found perhaps the most jarring was in the choice of camera angles. I feel that right off the bat, Raimi had gotten it right, by giving us wide-angle shots of the skyline & skyscrapers. It was beautiful, simple and majestic, and through that you could understand why Peter was getting such a thrill swinging through the city. But in ASM 1& 2, I'm not sure what you call those camera angles used, but they had the opposite effect for me of having it feel closed-in and small and the odd-angles were dizzying. Plus the movies had so many small quick cuts, especially the 2nd. All of that contributed to what I felt was a very distracting movie.