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Romulan War & UFP

I don't think this is impossible, or even unikely. We're meant to think that the BOP is something special, however. One of a kind? Maybe. Product of years of expensive research? Maybe. Doesn't sound like something I'd toss away on a ploy.
The plan wasn't to toss away their Flagship. Rather, the destruction of the Outposts (and get away with it) was sending a message to the Federation that the hundred year status quo was at an end and that they were now the superior space fleet. If the Federation decided to attack the Romulan home territories, then their ships were designed best for sneak attacks on immobile/slow targets, and on ambush attacks as ships pass by their patrol locations. (Submarine warfare.) Their strengths were stealth and fire power, and the only weakness was speed (and perhaps shields).
 
One thing that can't be denied is that the Romulan ship was nearly out of gas and running for the NZ. If the Commander had any plans to get home after that, then some sort of refueling vessel had to be waiting or coming soon.

This I guess is the reason I want to disbelieve in the cloak being fuel-hungry. The Commander was angry when the cloak was dropped without his explicit order, or dropped on its own when not properly attended to. If and when the Commander's plan was to remain cloaked all the way, he didn't have a very good grasp of the characteristics of his vessel. Or then the vessel was capable of the feat, i.e. didn't consume too much fuel in doing so, and was merely sloppily run by the underling who didn't have the tactical grasp of the situation.

This boss-servant dynamic appears to have been the dramatic intent of the scene, even if the writer had no underlying doctrinal ideas to offer. And it's fun to think that the Commander was a wise man and an experienced soldier whom Kirk couldn't push over quite that easily. But it sort of requires us to think that sailing home under cloak would have been possible, and that cloaking discipline, rather than fuel discipline, was the key to that.

(Another thought is that the Romulan Empire consists of only one solar system with two habitable planets, Romulus and Remus, and the NZ boarders its asteroid belt, but this is debunked in two later episodes.)

Within the confines of the episode itself, the one argument against a star system -sized sandbox is the dynamic map showing the hero ship approaching at maximum speed. But perhaps that one can be annulled, too, by saying that they were close to a single star: this would generally make maximum warp slower, and allow for the dot of light representing Kirk's ship to move at the same relative snail's pace as the Romulans apparently do.

In that case, though, Scotty and Kirk would both be wrong about being able to run rings around the enemy. If their maximum warp is little better than simple impulse, they really hold no aces.

As regards the nature of the mission, we can't even tell if it was a dismal failure or a splendid success. If the intent was to facilitate a war by taking down the fortress chain, then everything went wrong - but it was their own damn fault, as the Commander wasn't instructed to immediately go "Tora Tora Tora" on subspace so that the fleet could get moving, and the fleet didn't get moving during their one and only time window for doing so. If the intent was to launch a war by destroying the fortress chain, then everything went wrong - but only because the Feds didn't react as expected, and the Romulans might have been ill informed about human psyche.

If the intent was to build up interstellar reputation, it apparently was a big success, though - especially when boosted by the "we could have launched a war there and then, you know" element, so that the Romulans appear both powerful and capable of restraint, and not only should but also could be taken seriously at negotiation tables.

In the latter case, the Commander's traitorous sacrifice was in vain, as it didn't thwart the plans of his superiors - there was no war he would have avoided by committing suicide and forcing apparent mission failure. But it would have been too late in any scenario anyway: safe return home didn't appear necessary or even desirable, and message of success had already been sent by the apparently better-informed Decius.

Timo Saloniemi
 
This I guess is the reason I want to disbelieve in the cloak being fuel-hungry. The Commander was angry when the cloak was dropped without his explicit order, or dropped on its own when not properly attended to. If and when the Commander's plan was to remain cloaked all the way, he didn't have a very good grasp of the characteristics of his vessel. Or then the vessel was capable of the feat, i.e. didn't consume too much fuel in doing so, and was merely sloppily run by the underling who didn't have the tactical grasp of the situation.

...or, the Commander's thought process was along the lines of "I know we have sufficient fuel to complete the mission, and we've planned for cloaking to reach the mothership, given that it's likely that the Federation will have one or more pursuit ships in the area looking for us, and given all that, dropping the cloak is tactically unwise."

Of course, there could be other, non-fuel-related reasons to drop the cloak. It might be prone to stresses like overheating or build-up of field charges which have to be flushed or which are otherwise a danger to the BOP. The design might still be new enough that its mean time between failures rate is not very predictable, so shutting it down would help extend MTBF.
 
This I guess is the reason I want to disbelieve in the cloak being fuel-hungry. The Commander was angry when the cloak was dropped without his explicit order, or dropped on its own when not properly attended to. If and when the Commander's plan was to remain cloaked all the way, he didn't have a very good grasp of the characteristics of his vessel. Or then the vessel was capable of the feat, i.e. didn't consume too much fuel in doing so, and was merely sloppily run by the underling who didn't have the tactical grasp of the situation.
KIRK: I don't see anything. I can't understand it.
SPOCK: Invisibility is theoretically possible, Captain, with selective bending of light. But the power cost is enormous. They may have solved that problem.
UHURA: Continuing to challenge, sir. Still no response.
KIRK: Discontinue. Contact remaining outposts. Have them signal us any sightings or sensor readings in their area.
UHURA: Yes, sir.
SPOCK: Blip has changed its heading. And in a very leisurely manoeuvre. They may not be aware of us.
KIRK: Their invisibility screen may work both ways. With that kind of power consumption, they may not be able to see us.
Spock believes the cloaking system must use an enormous amount of power. Also, he says they may have solved that problem. I think Spock is more likely saying that they have enormous power generation on the ship to power the cloaking system, than implying that they developed a cloaking system that uses less power. Evidence of this is later provided by Kirk that the cloaking system has high power consumption (unless Kirk didn't understand Spock's analysis). :vulcan:

As to "does the ship have enough fuel (implying power consumption) to make it safety across the NZ while cloaked", I think the Commander calculated that they can marginally make it. Later in the episode, the main reason the fuel reserves were expended too fast I think was due to the evasive maneuvers the ship took avoiding the Enterprise's bombardment while cloaked. Before the bombardment, the ship was on a leisurely (i.e. slow) direct route, but during the bombardment, the ship was taking sever maneuvers and zig-zagging as it fled toward the NZ. One good example was at the comet ambush:
COMMANDER: How pleasing to the eye it is. Behold a marvel in the darkness.
CENTURION: You spoke of entrapment.
COMMANDER: Its many particles will obscure their sensing device, Centurion.
ROMULAN: We enter it, Commander.
COMMANDER: Once fully obscured, we will turn suddenly back upon our adversary.
ROMULAN: At last the screen is clear, Commander.
COMMANDER: Clear?
ROMULAN: Our reflection no longer follows us.
COMMANDER: Escape manoeuvre one, quickly!
 
Well.. for this, him being destroyed or self destruct really makes zero difference.
For example, lets say during pearl harbor that the Japanese struck the island, however, instead of making it back to there ships, lets say those 4 carriers were closer and attacked the Japanese fleet and sunk everything. They would still be at war, hell even if they Stopped pearl harbor if they picked them up on radar and stopped them.
For BoT, the romulans struck, and were identified, even if the ship was destroyed, the damage is done, they committed a provocation of war by destroying the listening posts so they can have a gap in coverage to send an invasion fleet.

So the Romulans sending 1 ship was stupid for the romulans, if your going to intentionally break the neutral zone AND attack federation outposts, your going to war and this is the first salvo.
 
The thing is, though, there was no war. So, did the Praetor behind the endeavor calculate right after all?

Japan and the US would be peers, more or less: both incapable and unwilling to invade the other, but both capable of playing naval games that really hurt. What would the dynamic between the RSE and the UFP be? Were the Romulans such a puny threat behind that rusting chicken wire that the worst they could do wasn't enough to trigger a war? Or did the invisible ship make them such a remarkable force that moving against them was going to take major effort, and was not worth it?

Romulans never appear to have expansionist aims: all they ever want to conquer is Vulcan. So launching an invasion fleet in "BoT" might have been an idea alien to them. Beating up a big guy just to get the attention of his gang always works for action heroes; perhaps the Romulans saw themselves as such, right or wrong?

Timo Saloniemi
 
Unlike the US who declared war on both Japan and Germany
Japan attacked America, then declared war on America, then America declared war on Japan, then Germany declared war on America, then America declared war on Germany.

The Pearl Harbor analogy falls apart when the Romulans didn't follow their attack up with a declaration of war and attacks elsewhere. The dominos didn't fall.

What do the Romulans know? After the attack their ship reported success, then disappeared. The federation said nothing, the Romulans have no idea what happen.

For all they know the outposts experience little or no damage.
 
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...For all we know, fifteen cloakships sailed out, seven successfully returned and reported on their success or failure, and the Commander we saw only ever scored Outpost 4. That'd be par for the course for comparable special ops, minisub raids and the like in real history.

Timo Saloniemi
 
...For all we know, fifteen cloakships sailed out, seven successfully returned and reported on their success or failure, and the Commander we saw only ever scored Outpost 4. That'd be par for the course for comparable special ops, minisub raids and the like in real history.

Timo Saloniemi

Very good point. Instead of Pearl Harbor, it could be more like the Spanish Armada.
 
Actually, one BOP per outpost would make more sense. Although this begs the question, were more outposts attacked after kirk began to follow the one BOP?
 
@Henoch THe Commander also orders "[c]ontinue evasive manoeuvres" earlier during the cloaking device discussion. So burning extra fuel trying to shake off the E is possible.

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As to why no war after, one could key on the idea that "Praetor" is not the same as Emperor. Depending on the Roman era, they could as low as a regional official. So maybe one went rogue?
 
Actually, one BOP per outpost would make more sense. Although this begs the question, were more outposts attacked after kirk began to follow the one BOP?

Well, Outpost 3 died by suddenly going silent; Outpost 2 never responded at all; and Kirk only ever admitted to getting an emergency call from Outpost 4. So for all we know, dozens of Outposts were gunned down, most died when there were no communications outgoing (be they expected or emergency ones) and thus weren't missed, and our Commander Sarek just botched up the killing of OP4 somewhere around the middle of the campaign.

Did each of the Commanders believe he had been given the Praetor's finest flagship? Or was each of the Commanders champion to a different Praetor? Competing by waging private little wars was a common Praetorial pastime in Rome...

Timo Saloniemi
 
Competing by waging private little wars was a common Praetorial pastime in Rome...
Exactly. Those "hundred campaigns" that the Centurion mentioned could just as well be endemic of internal conflicts between different Romulan factions. [Added] It's a reasonable explanation for them staying behind the NZ if they are rarely united.
 
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