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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x01 - "Second Contact"

Rate the episode...

  • 10 - Excellent!

    Votes: 34 13.9%
  • 9

    Votes: 38 15.6%
  • 8

    Votes: 75 30.7%
  • 7

    Votes: 38 15.6%
  • 6

    Votes: 20 8.2%
  • 5

    Votes: 11 4.5%
  • 4

    Votes: 10 4.1%
  • 3

    Votes: 4 1.6%
  • 2

    Votes: 3 1.2%
  • 1 - The lowliest lowest grade possible.

    Votes: 11 4.5%

  • Total voters
    244
I voted 4/10. Not the worst thing ever, but in my opinion its a subpar animated comedy, the type of thing I'd expect to see air on TBS in a really shitty time slot. None of the characters were interesting or funny, I don't think I laughed once (honestly, as much as I hate The Orville, Seth Macfarlane & Co gets what you should do with a comedy version of Trek much better then this show does).

Overall I've seen all that I need to see, and I won't be watching another episode.
 
Very thin justification for such a bad, annoying and obviously fan serivcey joke.

"What they deal with" is not listing a bunch of prominent Starfleet characters. The opportunity for a real joke was there, but then went with that instead. :shrug:
Just as it cuts out she is starting to explain about Trois jumpsuits which I did find kinda funny
 
Technically I don't think this was a pilot, I believe it had already gone directly to series before they even started work on it. A pilot is not just the first episode, it's specifically the episode, usually the first, which is made to sell a show, and hopefully get it picked up to become a series. If the show is already becoming a full series before production starts, then it's not a pilot.
Yes, it is the pilot. the function of a pilot is more complex than being an episode that sells the series. It is a piece in which all the issues related to production are worked out, from story, to sets, to casting, etc. It is normally the episode that has the most money spent on it. Directors of pilots yield some control over the series, being involved in various casting decisions. Indeed, writing a pilot episode can be considers grounds to be considered the series' creator.
 
I didn’t watch the trailer so I went it cold so I had no expectations. I really enjoyed it even though I found it a little too hyper. Looking forward to next week’s episode.
 
Dr. Purrlaski :hugegrin:
Nice.:rommie:
Yes, it is the pilot. the function of a pilot is more complex than being an episode that sells the series. It is a piece in which all the issues related to production are worked out, from story, to sets, to casting, etc. It is normally the episode that has the most money spent on it. Directors of pilots yield some control over the series, being involved in various casting decisions. Indeed, writing a pilot episode can be considers grounds to be considered the series' creator.
Oh, I didn't know that.
 
That was awesome! Really like all the new characters! Mariner is a little bit too much...

The opening credits sound a bit TOS and TNG which is cool! Looking forward to seeing the Borg and Klingons! I like the art style too!

The suckling part was so :guffaw:

:techman::techman:
 
Barnes appears to be a Trill. Why does she have a human name? Half-Trill, maybe?
I wonder whether she was even scripted as Trill or when it came to animating the episode they just chose a Trill character model for her, with the dialogue already recorded and all.
Notably she also doesn't make any reference to being Trill, you'd think if she was scripted as one they'd make her compare Rutherford's trouble with getting used to being a cyborg (something that changes his behaviour) to her father going through something similar due to getting Joined rather than also being a cyborg.

Dax is also a human name. So is Jadzia.

But again those are not names the average member of the primary (Anglophone) audience would immediately recognize as ordinary. Barnes, just like Sarah, however is.
 
I watched it again just to see if my opinion would change after thinking it over and seeing so many liking it and...

I don't see why so many like it.

It was generally loud and annoying (Mariner) and the stuff that happens in it just doesn't really "fit" with how I feel about Star Trek it just felt like a parody.

It probably would have been better if Mariner was dialed back from an 11 to a 7 or 6, but she just always loudly, rapidly, talking and it's a lot to deal with when it makes up most of the episode and too much of it just feel like gags there for the sake of gags because we needs laughs, so who care if it really makes sense to any kind of logic.

"It's a cartoon" "Oooo, it's a cartoon."

Being a cartoon doesn't mean it has to be balls-to-the-wall crazy and a near parody. They do make serious cartoons you know.

For me it doesn't fit in. I didn't find anything funny, but I did find plenty of it to be LOUD AND ANNOYING!!!!

The trailers made me worry it would be too frenetic and shrill. I thought the first episode skirted on the right side of that, just, but I could see it tipping in the wrong direction as we spend more time with these characters. So they’re walking a tightrope. But I thought the reveal about the captain and Beckett was smart not only because it was an interesting twist but because good character work can balance out the high-pitched silliness.

In the end, this may be a show best enjoyed in smaller doses. But that’s true of Trek’s comedy stuff in general, I think, and I did enjoy this first dose.
 
I wonder whether she was even scripted as Trill or when it came to animating the episode they just chose a Trill character model for her, with the dialogue already recorded and all..


You would never record the dialogue that early in the process, before character design and animatic. In many cases, you go back and do additional looping once the episode is fully animated.
 
Point of clarification about pronunciation. Cerritos, if pronounced in Spanish, would be seh-REE-tos. The long a sound is written with ei. The solo e is pronounced like a short e in English. Like the e in bed or net. Tres, the Spanish word for three, should rhyme with the English dress, not be homophonic with trace.
 
You would never record the dialogue that early in the process, before character design and animatic. In many cases, you go back and do additional looping once the episode is fully animated.

From everything I have read in Western animation dialogue is usually, recorded before the animation is done (which is why lip movements in Western animation typically match the dialogue, whereas in Anime, where the animation is done before the recording, the characters just "flap" their mouths)
My theory was that they just chose a trill character model from already existing character models.
That's for example why the actors in Bob's Burgers are able to improvise during recording, or why cut scenes from Western animation usually have all the dialogue, but only have storyboards/very rough animation.
 
...it just felt like a parody.

Then enjoy it as a parody.

I feel if I were less intelligent it might have appealed to me more.

Maybe if I had the mental capacity of an 8 year old I might have found the desire to ever contemplate watching another.

Count me as one mentally eight year old who loved it, my wife also enjoyed it a great deal.

Unfortunate we can't all be as smart as you. :rolleyes:

What was that little gem from somewhere: "the more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play".
 
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