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Lower Decks Trailer Analysis

Discussion board fodder on my end. Like I mentioned upthread, I forgot they were even in the Disco Episodes. When I see FX Shots my mind just goes "FX Shots!" I noticed it more in "Q&A". But more like it registered and stuck in my memory.

I've only watched DSC S2 twice. Spread pretty far apart. And if something doesn't stick with me, I'm not remembering it.

I was also slow to pick up on the DSC ships in "Chlidren of Mars". I didn't think about it until I read the threads on TrekBBS. So this is just one area where those types of things aren't my strong suit.
 
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The thing is, as an out-of-context visual shot I find this actually pretty cool looking in itself. It looks like a futuristic city environment from some high budget sci-fi movie. But therein lies the problem, there shouldn't be any cityscape-like structures inside a ship like Discovery or Enterprise.

I'm not even sure in a "futuristic city scape" these kind of transportation devices make sense. Futurama like pneumatic tubes is probably about as "silly" as it can get and even on "some" level that can make sense. (Though for such a system to work you'd have to be in a sealed container or vessel. Hell there's already plans/concepts systems like that today.)

It still brings the question of why if you're only going up/down a few floors or over to the side a few yards or even miles, why do these wild turns and changes of direction? In an extreme Blade Runner sort of way.... "Maybe" But even there trains or vessels in tubes moving at high speed but still going on a single direction on a single plane is where it ends, not a roller coaster.

The turbolift seems to be a difficult thing to get right.

TNG came the closest in "Disaster" but even that left questions.

Yeah. That's the one that springs to my mind. But, almost every iteration of Trek has turbolift oddities.

I can't say that anything anywhere in Trek stands out as a place where turbolifts don't make sense they've always been treated as and shown to be essentially elevators that can move horizontally as well.

The thing that "doesn't make sense" in "Disaster" is probably that we don't see any horizontal tubes (which would be what Picard and the kids would want to aim for so they could simply walk down a shaft to test doors instead of climbing the tube, but at the same time Picard wouldn't be very able to walk and could probably more easily hop up ladder rungs. But, we'll just say they're in a section without any horizontal shafts and the nearest one was cut off by the emergency bulkheads or maybe even a car at the threshold. The other part that doesn't make sense is how the brake is shown and talked about but this is just a flub between the script writers and the people who built the props and sets. Also that the brake can "fail" in such a manner which is odd considering how elevator brakes work today in that they "fail safe."

Nothing in the other series stand out to me as places where the turbolifts are treated in an inconsistent way or that doesn't make sense. Hell when we see inside a shaft in Voyager we even see horizontal tubes and, IIRC, when we see a reverse shot sometimes in DS9 we even seen the shaft moving along depicting the car as not having its own door.

The most least sense making is the deck numbering in Star Trek V which that's chalked up to any number of behind-the-scenes reasons, most likely due to give them more height to ascend to at such a highspeed. They're going too fast for "20-something" to be a reasonable length of time for them to last such a long time at such a high speed, but start with 70-something and you have time. Then you pass the same number a few times. That whole scene is just a mess.

But at the end of the day in all of the series and movies before "now" they've always just been elevators. Cars that move in shafts from one place to the other and they can also move horizontally. This Disocvery bit just shows that Kurtzman and the show runners don't know how elevators work.

And it was done for Discovery to account for all of the empty space in such a big ship with such a small crew? So all of this empty space is just... empty space for a bunch of roller coaster rides for the elevators? How does that make more sense than just saying "it's a big, secret, ship and they just get buy with a small crew." I mean the E-D is a BIG ship and really had a small crew when you think of the volume of the thing and that "only" 1014 people are in it. There's a YT video or an image out there showing the entire compliment of the ship standing on the hull and they make up a pretty small section of the surface, and the ship is pretty damn huge compared to the small area of people. In reality you'd probably always see empty corridors (as we often do.)

So why not just say the same for Discovery? "Yeah, most of it is is empty. They do what they have to do."

But, no, Kurtzman just says huge volumes of this ship are just giant caverns filled with roller coasters so people can go up and down a couple floors.
 
In Disaster, they were most likely further away from a horizontal shaft than any number of decks. Were they in the saucer or secondary hull?
 
But, no, Kurtzman just says huge volumes of this ship are just giant caverns filled with roller coasters so people can go up and down a couple floors.
Don't they go horizontal as and maybe around the saucers as well? I sure don't want to walk from Ten forward to Ten aft.
 
I put them closer together and took out the nebula

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