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Lower Decks Trailer Analysis

Honestly they were more forgivable on Discovery, because it's not a ship we've ever seen an internal schematic for, and it canonically has an unusually small crew given the size of the ship, so it would make sense if there's lots of empty space inside.

Eh, still wouldn't make much sense to have vast areas of your spacecraft (where space is a premium) be loads of empty space for a bunch of rollercoaster rides just so people can go up and down a couple floors.
 
The original Enterprise had a bowling alley.

I guess silliness is in the eye of the beholder.
I'd love for someone on the Enterprise to be on a streak. If they nail this strike, it's going to put them over the top in the score and they'll win the game. They're about deliver the killer strike, then... just then... the ship shakes a little, the bowling ball pivots, doesn't even knock over a single pin, and then over it we hear...

"RED ALERT! RED ALERT! All hands to battle-stations!!!"
 
That's why you, me, @cooleddie74 and @Michael are on the same page. Just to different degrees.

I still don't like the brewery in the Kelvin Films either.

@marlboro take notes. I'm saying stuff about New Trek I don't like. ;)

I genuinely think the turbolift system is just the producers having a good-natured trolling of the fans.

And I mean that sincerely. I think they knew damn well how ridiculous it was, and they were giggling their asses off watching the fx in the screening room thinking about all the wound-too-tight fans who would lose their minds.
 
I genuinely think the turbolift system is just the producers having a good-natured trolling of the fans.

And I mean that sincerely. I think they knew damn well how ridiculous it was, and they were giggling their asses off watching the fx in the screening room thinking about all the wound-too-tight fans who would lose their minds.
Yup.
 
Wasn't that - and the scenes from Discovery - reportedly added in post without the knowledge of the directors?
Not exactly. So the story goes, the "funhouse turbolift" was thought up by Kurtzman for the episode Brother, season 2 premiere which he himself did direct. The issue was, he basically decreed this through executive fiat on account of he's the guy currently in charge of the franchise without consulting at all with the show's art department, who had already come up with their own internal layout of the ship which did not take into account a massive roller coaster in the middle.

Supposedly, this was one of Kurtzman's various "canon fixing" initiatives for Disco's second season in which he felt the need to explain why the Crossfield class is double the size of a Constitution class, but only a fraction of the crew (130 for the Crossfield class, 400 for the Constitution class). So his solution was that on the Crossfield class, all the habitable areas are on the ship's perimeter, with the rest of the ship being a giant hollow space in which the rollercoaster turbolift is housed.

Then they went and completely disregarded this in the Q&A Short Trek showing the Constitution class also has a rollercoaster turbolift.
The early TNG civilian clothing.
Civilian clothes in all TNG is pretty bad. Or really, in any 24th century show. Except Picard.
Unless there are massive numbers of enlisted that we just don't see, most of the "basic" work is carried out by officers - which is also backed up in canon. Starfleet, as portrayed, is mostly super-educated and super-capable officers doing most things. For everything else there should be automated processes and robots.
Well, no. We do know there are enlisted personnel who do the menial stuff. Voyager Good Shepherd for example, you had Mortimer Herron, a guy who spent his days doing really basic stuff on the ship's lowest deck. And according to that episode, he was intentionally doing stuff he was overqualified to do, B'Ellanna claimed she's tried getting him to do more heavy lifting, which he had always refused.
If there are actually large numbers of enlisted, as would be logical following current naval tradition, that would only make it more likely the young officers we are following should be elite.
Except not everyone can be "elite." There's a saying where I work "someone's got to be the worst." There's always going to be someone who is a weak link. That does not necessarily mean they're completely incompetent, it just means they are not a shining star making waves everywhere they go. For some people, being in Starfleet is just a job. A good majority of Starfleet personnel we see seem to be career officers, they join Starfleet with the intent of someday making Admiral or something. Really, the junior officer ranks should be filled with people who have career ambitions outside of Starfleet, and are just serving in Starfleet as a stepping stone towards whatever it is they want to move onto next in their life. The idea that everyone who becomes an officer wants to someday become a Captain or Admiral just isn't realistic.

Besides, if Starfleet officers are the Federation's pinnacle of perfection, and they attain higher rank as representation of how they are the best of the best of the best, then it paints a pretty bad picture that so many evil people become Starfleet Admirals.
That means the apocalypse is right around the corner! :p
Meh, welcome to 2020.
 
Besides, if Starfleet officers are the Federation's pinnacle of perfection, and they attain higher rank as representation of how they are the best of the best of the best, then it paints a pretty bad picture that so many evil people become Starfleet Admirals.
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Wasn't that - and the scenes from Discovery - reportedly added in post without the knowledge of the directors?
Literally not possible, since the director of it's first appearance was Trek overlord Alex Kurtzman himself.

The rumor was that the art department didn't know, but then who would have built the CG? Or concepted it?? Reeks of the usual "Kurtzman fired" bollocks.

The giant brewery engine room sucks. End of story.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to enjoy a beer.
I loved it:shrug:
 
What do you call the person that graduated bottom of their class in med school?
Doctor.

"Someone who still had to get no less than the equivalent of a B+, but that's stupid because Med Schools are Pass/Fail/Honors. Not "person who studied hard"/"person who sort of slacked through"/"person who smoked weed the entire time but still managed to get through with a 1.0 GPA." there is no "bottom of the class" in Med School."
 
"Someone who still had to get no less than the equivalent of a B+, but that's stupid because Med Schools are Pass/Fail/Honors. Not "person who studied hard"/"person who sort of slacked through"/"person who smoked weed the entire time but still managed to get through with a 1.0 GPA." there is no "bottom of the class" in Med School."

If Bashir finished second in his class, that means they were ranked, and someone finished at the bottom.
 
Supposedly, this was one of Kurtzman's various "canon fixing" initiatives for Disco's second season in which he felt the need to explain why the Crossfield class is double the size of a Constitution class, but only a fraction of the crew (130 for the Crossfield class, 400 for the Constitution class). So his solution was that on the Crossfield class, all the habitable areas are on the ship's perimeter, with the rest of the ship being a giant hollow space in which the rollercoaster turbolift is housed.
I'm surprised someone actually put that much thought into it. I liked most of the stuff they did in season 2, especially the changes to Klingons, but this was just ridiculous. I just find it hard to believe you could even fit all of what we saw with the turbolifts in the ship.

Civilian clothes in all TNG is pretty bad. Or really, in any 24th century show. Except Picard.
I thought it most of the civilian clothes in DS9 and Voyager was pretty good. Except for the characters who they seemed to purposefully put in strange clothes, like Neelix.



What do you call the person that graduated bottom of their class in med school?
Doctor.
Somewhere in the world is the worst doctor, and someone has an appointment with them in the morning.
 
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