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Lower Decks Trailer Analysis
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God I hope not.Bridge window?
I hope it is.God I hope not.
I'm not sure there's proof that she worked on the show, the text implies it's just an art style exploration.
Bridge windows are one of my favorite things. I think many starships should have them if the bridge is going to be put on top.
So is air travel, but it still requires a lot of training, experience and professional conduct in order to be safe and efficient. Even the flight attendants carry a huge responsibility in keeping the flight crew informed and ensuring that the passengers are safe at all times both during normal and critical situations.
Average people may join the Army, Navy, Marines or the Air Force, but they are NOT average people when they're on the job. All I see from these characters is heaping doses of Insubordination, and no organization that follows a chain of command should ever tolerate this kind of behavior.
As you mentioned in your post, this is a very dangerous job. The idea that Starfleet would just throw in uncaring and badly mannered people onto ships thinking they'll be fine in the lower decks does not make any sense in Star Trek.
No one is making a 'lower decks' like show about nasa personnel goofing around with dangerous tools and constantly making things worse for everyone.
They're not NASA per se, but that actually sounds close to the premise of The Big Bang Theory, to be honest.
Or Space Force.They're not NASA per se, but that actually sounds close to the premise of The Big Bang Theory, to be honest.
I think it's about as serious as Big Bang.
What is that crazy quote I’ve seen bouncing around the interwebz...
“The more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play...”
Indeed.
More than that there is a greater recognition that play allows the brain to express an process things that cannot always be said.
Also, I think Star Trek needs to stop taking itself so seriously.
I think, to me, these are going to be characters who don’t have the weight of the universe on their shoulders, who will more often than not have a regular day-to-day monotonous duties. I know when I had jobs like that, my mind tended to wander and I found other ways to entertain myself. I also made mistakes because of it.
That’s all we’re seeing here, young people essentially working their first jobs. I hope McMahan and company can make it work.
That’s all we’re seeing here, young people essentially working their first jobs. I hope McMahan and company can make it work.
And yet we have comedies about those organizations who show that very behavior.
It's OK to have a comedy.
I'm guessing Jeyl has never seen I Dream of Jeannie.They're not NASA per se, but that actually sounds close to the premise of The Big Bang Theory, to be honest.
As being former military, The higher ups don't really hang out with lower echelon people.
There's even separate clubs for Officers and Enlisted. But all the characters seem to be ensigns kind of kills that separation. But even in lets say a Carrier. The lowly ensign that is in charge of supply doesn't hang out with the admiral after hours. Said admiral probably doesn't even know the ensign exists except as a Slot in his command. Supply officer! okay..
As they move up, be put in charge of small groups, or projects, move up to group leader in a division, say astrophisics, and steadly move up to head of astrophysics, then maybe think about any cross training in security etc. if they want to do any command track work. Even science vessels need captains!
And saying that miltary work is all serious is.. quite laughable, its just ordinary people in a shop/lab whatever doing a job and having fun if they can, but you always have those sticks in mud..
However, I doubt an ensign would clean the Holodeck fun jar.. that's enlisted work!
There's even separate clubs for Officers and Enlisted. But all the characters seem to be ensigns kind of kills that separation. But even in lets say a Carrier. The lowly ensign that is in charge of supply doesn't hang out with the admiral after hours. Said admiral probably doesn't even know the ensign exists except as a Slot in his command. Supply officer! okay..
As they move up, be put in charge of small groups, or projects, move up to group leader in a division, say astrophisics, and steadly move up to head of astrophysics, then maybe think about any cross training in security etc. if they want to do any command track work. Even science vessels need captains!
And saying that miltary work is all serious is.. quite laughable, its just ordinary people in a shop/lab whatever doing a job and having fun if they can, but you always have those sticks in mud..
However, I doubt an ensign would clean the Holodeck fun jar.. that's enlisted work!
Or M*A*S*H, Sergeant Bilko, Gomer Pyle, Down Periscope, McHale's Navy, No Time for Sergeants, or In the Army Now, among others.
I think the fact that I, and quite a few people on here are looking forward to it proves you very wrong.
I don't we've really seen enough of the real lower decks crew members to know what they are like. Outside of a handful of one off characters, the majority of the people we saw were all upper level crew members.
The Cerritos is also a lower level ship in the fleet compared to ships like the Enterprise or Voyager, or DS9. So that right there already means that the characters we're seeing in this are not going to be the best in the fleet.
I'm not entirely sure what this has to do with Lower Decks.
Except you kind of already did in this very post, at the start of it you basically said that no real Star Trek fan could possibly like this show.
They could easily do a story like that thanks to time travel or the holodeck, or like someone else said earlier in the thread, it could be a flashback story.
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We've never seen this kind of humor done in a Star Trek setting, so it really kind of is something new.
They actually did have a couple NASA related stories in The Big Bang Theory. One of the main characters, Howard, was an engineer who worked for NASA a few times. There was one episode where he was trying to impress a date an accidently got one of the Mars Rovers stuck in a ditch, and he built a toilet for the ISS, which didn't exactly work as planned, and they also had a couple episodes with him up on the ISS itself.They're not NASA per se, but that actually sounds close to the premise of The Big Bang Theory, to be honest.
"Professional conduct" huh? You mean like the Navy pilot who drew a penis in the sky?
Actually, they really are. And I mean no disrespect towards the men and women in uniform who do a superhuman job, but they are not themselves superhuman. They are ordinary people, with a stressful job. That stress has to be relieved in some manner, and if that means goofing off on the job, then they goof off on the job. You want real world examples, there's the above example of the Navy pilot's shenanigans. I know a guy who serves in the Canadian Navy who posts pictures on his Facebook of him and his friends goofing off on the job. Or then there's the various rituals in various navies, coast guards and other shipping services commemorating a person's first time sailing in general, or sailing across the equator, or to the Arctic or whatever.
Then there's the matter of Stargate SG-1, a show set in the US Air Force which shows Colonel Jack O'Neill engaging in all manner of behavior which can be considered unprofessional and insubordinate. When actor Richard Dean Anderson was talking to real life (at the time) USAF Chief of Staff General Michael Ryan about if actual Colonels acted at all like O'Neill, General Ryan gave an exasperated sigh and said "there are man Colonels who are just like O'Neill, and many more who are much worse."
I suspect if one were to spend a day at NASA one would find all manner of immaturity going on. Simply put, no one is 100% grown-up or mature.
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Does the trailer look appallingly bad? Yes. Will I still watch the show? Also yes.
Huh.. looking at the cutaway.. there appears to be NO ROOM FOR THE WONKA-VATOR! OH NO! 
In a normal, day to day life of a military, they are normal you, me, him, everybody, everybody.. (Starts singing blues brothers... Everybody Needs somebody..)
only time there serious is when its called for, Red alert, tense away missions etc. can't be "In The Zone" serious 24/7 ..
In a normal, day to day life of a military, they are normal you, me, him, everybody, everybody.. (Starts singing blues brothers... Everybody Needs somebody..)
only time there serious is when its called for, Red alert, tense away missions etc. can't be "In The Zone" serious 24/7 ..
While I agree with your overall sentiment that Starfleet will include more "average behavior" than some people seem to expect from these "evolved" beings, I disagree with your contention that Starfleet would be composed more like today's military than NASA. I did the math recently, and even given a fleet of 10,000 starships and an estimated 900 planets (not all "core" planets) and all the "routine" deaths of crew and losses of ships in dangerous situations, Starfleet would need "a lot" of new recruits every year. But given the huge population of the Federation, Starfleet (by my calculations) could be about 100 times a picky as, say, MIT in selecting their new recruits and still meet all their staffing needs. The people going into Starfleet should absolutely be the best of the best of the best ("sir, with honors" - to quote MIB).
That said I agree with the other poster who quoted ""The more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play."
As for my own thoughts on this trailer. I was a little disappointed at first, I don't know what I was expecting, but it didn't really get my upon first watch. But a couple of additional rewatches and I really like it. I think it will be a good show. My favorite part is the song about the "blast shields" - it's catchy (like songs about scanning for lifeforms) and shows her fun character.
