I mean, the possibilities are still rather endless, are they not?
Lower Decks Trailer Analysis
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Why pass up the chance to highlight human diversity for the fictional human-like diversity of your standard Trek aliens?
Of course that future though was wiped out when the expanse was destroyed and also the cold war ceased to have ever existed.
Jason
Meh. Some of it will still happen in one form or another.
That's Star Trek.
That's Star Trek.
The Orion is part of the show's main cast. And the Bajoran and Caitian are part of the show's regular supporting cast.
If you like it, watch it.
If you don't like it, don't watch it.
If your thirsty, drink.
If your hungry, eat.
If your horny, watch tenticle hentai.
Gatekeeping either way is crap.
If you don't like it, don't watch it.
If your thirsty, drink.
If your hungry, eat.
If your horny, watch tenticle hentai.
Gatekeeping either way is crap.
Because they showed clips that establish the tone, characters, setting ect. In order to answer that one question, you have to have an opinion based on the material that they just showed you. From what I've seen from this preview alone, this series just wants to appeal to an audience that would otherwise not enjoy Star Trek. Or audiences who would enjoy Star Trek ironically.
I've watched enough Star Trek to know that the officers who work in the lower decks are not portrayed in the stereotypical 'upstairs/downstars' fashion that this show tries to establish. And why would they? I think of Starfleet like NASA. Everyone who works there is trying to help achieve the impossible. If you think of all the people who work in space travel today, you might find it surprising that a large percentage of those people don't actually get to make it to space. With the combined staff of both NASA and SPACE X rounding up to about 25,000 employees, we've only been able to launch %.008 of those employees into space. I doubt anyone in the %99.992 are going to behave like these characters. I quote Apollo 13,
JIM: The astronaut is only the most visible member of a very large team. And all of us, right down to the guy sweeping the floor are honored to be a part of it. What did the man say? "Give me a lever long enough, and I'll move the world?" Well, that's exactly what we're doing here. This is divine inspiration, folks. The best part of each one of us-- the belief that anything is possible.
Why would I want to be? Difference of opinions are one of the few things that clearly define us as individuals. I'm not here to say that you or anyone else isn't a proper Star Trek fan if you like this show. I'm just bummed out that this is what we're getting.
Crediting this series for trying something 'new and different' is problematic for a couple of reasons. 'New and different' is too broad of a description to warrant any kind of credit. If I were to turn Star Trek into a western #&!*/revenge story that didn't even involve space travel or aliens, it would still fit your criteria. Just because you can do something different doesn't automatically make it good.
Another reason I disagree with crediting the show runners for doing something new is that while this show's approach may be something new and different for Star Trek, it's hardly anything new or different in the media we're already getting today. It's more 'It's just like that other show!' and less 'It's just like Star Trek!'.
Depends on how it was done.
contract workers bending metal on common bulkheads at Huntsville are not hanging out drinking beers with the rocket jockeys in the evening.
The shield scene was greatly enhanced by the VOY computer sounds
The Antedians don't have earlobes like that, and have lateral eyes. Of course such details don't necessarily matter to people these days
At which point you're better off just telling an original story. A @&$#/revenge western story with no science fiction elements can work as a Star Trek story? What exactly are you looking for in Star Trek if you're willing to accept such a low bar? Sure, you can do a lot of crazy stuff on Star Trek, but there has to be a sense that what you're doing fits in with what Star Trek as a whole.
And that means what to this conversation? I worked on imaging computers right across the hallway from the programmers who actually set up those images. They're awesome folks but my respect towards them and my position isn't limited on whether I can share a drink with them at a bar. I don't even go drink or go to bars.
Pretending NASA is this egalitarian society to base Starfleet on , that does not have stratification.
Comparing Starfleet to NASA really isn't an apt comparison at all. NASA is essentially an organization of elites, astronauts are the best of the best in their fields, and the various ground control personnel are likely from the tops of their fields. Space travel in the modern era is still such a rarity that they are going to be picky about who gets involved, both as the actual astronauts and the ground support staff.
Anyway, by the 23rd and 24th centuries, space travel is a lot more commonplace and routine. While I am NOT trying to start a "is Starfleet a military" discussion, the truth of the matter is, Starfleet's personnel selection is going to be more similar to modern militaries, coast guards or other shipping services than it is going to be similar to modern NASA. Starfleet is an organization which operates hundreds of ships and bases with crews of hundreds or even over a thousand each. And that's before you take into account the high mortality rate. Even during peacetime, the average Starfleet ship likely loses dozens of their crew per year through ship battles or planetside mishaps on away teams. They don't have the luxury of selecting only the best of the best, the masters of their fields. For the simple matter of meeting basic staffing requirements, they need to hire average ordinary people. That's simply how shit is done.
According to you, NASA and Space X have a combined staff of 25 000 employees. Starfleet probably has 25 000 officers and personnel in one sector alone. Do you see how comparing staffing requirements is apples and oranges?
Well, I figure it could be an interesting fun story if you are telling a tale of a Trek ancestor. Again, it all depends on how it is done. I don't do the whole categorical rejection thing just because it doesn't sound like Star Trek at first blush.
Westerns and science fiction work very well together so I don't immediately see the problem.
What am I looking for in Star Trek? Action, adventure, interesting characters in a science fiction setting while exploring the human condition. It's a pretty big box, I'll admit. But, then, TOS was a pretty big box and that's what I grew up with.
Mileage will vary.
Pike is actually a character that would fit in well with a Trek Western. Pike and Vina leave Talo's. Pike can't return to Starfleet and basically becomes Sherriff of Nimbus 3. He answers to the 3 diplomats from the Federation, Romulus and Kronos. The planet has aliens from all over and we find out other settlements have started up. Plus a alien transporter that operates much like a Stargate has been found for off planet adventures or trips. Not to mention they have a spaceship as well. Vina is captain of the ship and she goes off planet a great deal in order to do business or carry and haul supplies and exotic food for the markets etc.
Jason
Jason
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THIS. MUST. HAPPEN.
THIS. MUST. HAPPEN.
It appears to be a part of concept work. The artist released it back in May.
Maybe a part timer, like Garak?
