DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

[Anwar]

No. I’m laughing at the intensely puerile, unsubstantiated, tediously tiresome, repetitive bovine excrement constantly found in your posts

Oh calm down, sunshine.

where you repeatedly offer a desperate, unfathomable, unfounded argument about Heath Ledger’s Oscar,

It's hardly just me, plenty of folks figure he only got it because he died.

owing to an irrationally expressed hatred of an approach to films based on comics that happens to differ from your exceedingly narrow vision of what constitutes an acceptable way to make such films.

You obviously weren't paying attention when the Nolanites were ragging on anything that wasn't done in the Nolan style.

I wouldn't expect that, but as I said, I didn't mind Forever overall, and some more fleshing out of certain underdeveloped elements could be a moderate improvement. Not everything has to be hyperbole.

I did enjoy how Bruce had that chat with Dick about the nature of revenge and how he can't let it consume him.

And the idea of Bruce being involved with a Psychiatrist was a good idea...just not executed that well due to Dr Meridian being one of the least professional shrinks I've ever seen,

 

[fireproof78]

And the idea of Bruce being involved with a Psychiatrist was a good idea...just not executed that well due to Dr Meridian being one of the least professional shrinks I've ever seen,

Ethics? What are those?

 

[Ovation]

You obviously weren't paying attention when the Nolanites were ragging on anything that wasn't done in the Nolan style.

Yaaawwwn.

 

[Anwar]

Yaaawwwn.

Baaaaaah.

 

[fireproof78]

 

[Ovation]

Baaaaaah.

At last. Your argument about Ledger reduced to its essence: a meaningless, inarticulate expression of noise.

Now, to the topic—so, which would people rather see in future DCEU movies: Keaton’s return as a platform for Batman Beyond films or Keaton’s Batman as a Nick Fury type over in the MCU?

 

[USS Firefly]

At last. Your argument about Ledger reduced to its essence: a meaningless, inarticulate expression of noise.

Now, to the topic—so, which would people rather see in future DCEU movies: Keaton’s return as a platform for Batman Beyond films or Keaton’s Batman as a Nick Fury type over in the MCU?

I think Bale is too young for a Batman Beyond Wayne. I choose Keaton, also because I think TDKR was really bad so it left a bad taste in my mouth.

 

[Anwar]

At last. Your argument about Ledger reduced to its essence: a meaningless, inarticulate expression of noise

Actually, I was referring to your silly rebuttals and refusal to acknowledge that his tragic death played a big part in what happened.

Now, to the topic—so, which would people rather see in future DCEU movies: Keaton’s return as a platform for Batman Beyond films or Keaton’s Batman as a Nick Fury type over in the MCU?

Beyond. Bale wasn't even that great a Batman.

 

[The Lensman]

At last. Your argument about Ledger reduced to its essence: a meaningless, inarticulate expression of noise

Just ignore him.

He brings nothing meaningful to the table on the subject of comics, in any way shape or form. Just a constant and repetitive vomitous stream of inane mewling and bleating.

Now, to the topic—so, which would people rather see in future DCEU movies: Keaton’s return as a platform for Batman Beyond films or Keaton’s Batman as a Nick Fury type over in the MCU?

Neither. I'd rather John Jones be introduced as the mysterious Nick Fury type with a later dramatic reveal of him as J'onn J'onnz / Martian Manhunter.

As much as I enjoyed Keaton as Batman, this just feels like a blatant appeal to nostalgia and comes off as desperate IMO. I'd rather they forge a path forward with a new character we haven't seen on screen before.

 

[fireproof78]

Now, to the topic—so, which would people rather see in future DCEU movies: Keaton’s return as a platform for Batman Beyond films or Keaton’s Batman as a Nick Fury type over in the MCU?

If they do Batman Beyond then Keaton. If not, then neither. Just push forward with the franchise and allow it to evolve on its own rather than living in MCU's irritating shadow.

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

I'd rather they forge a path forward with a new character we haven't seen on screen before.

Like Terry McGinnis?

In which case getting Keaton back is more than just simple nostalgia, it's pretty darned logical to boot.

 

[The Lensman]

Like Terry McGinnis?

In which case getting Keaton back is more than just simple nostalgia, it's pretty darned logical to boot.

Clearly I wasn't paying enough attention while reading. I thought we were being asked about which Batman actor to play a Nick Fury type role. As an older Bruce for Batman Beyond, then yeah....it is pretty damned logical. LOL!

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

Clearly I wasn't paying enough attention while reading. I thought we were being asked about which Batman actor to play a Nick Fury type role. As an older Bruce for Batman Beyond, then yeah....it is pretty damned logical. LOL!

I do like your idea of Martian Manhunter being the common thread between movies though. It would be different enough than just a Nick Fury riff, I think. Plus he needs to get into the movies!

 

[Ovation]

Clearly I wasn't paying enough attention while reading. I thought we were being asked about which Batman actor to play a Nick Fury type role. As an older Bruce for Batman Beyond, then yeah....it is pretty damned logical. LOL!

It has been suggested that Keaton might be asked to play his Wayne/Batman as a Nick Fury type mentor OR as a Bruce for Batman Beyond. I was asking which of these two options appealed to others. I guess I could have expressed it more clearly.

 

[The Lensman]

It has been suggested that Keaton might be asked to play his Wayne/Batman as a Nick Fury type mentor OR as a Bruce for Batman Beyond. I was asking which of these two options appealed to others. I guess I could have expressed it more clearly.

You literally could not have expressed it more clearly. The fault was all mine.

 

[Mage]

It has been suggested that Keaton might be asked to play his Wayne/Batman as a Nick Fury type mentor OR as a Bruce for Batman Beyond. I was asking which of these two options appealed to others. I guess I could have expressed it more clearly.

The latter.

What DCEU did wrong, in my opinion, is wanting to jump on the Avengers hype to soon, and make a team-up (JL) before properlly establishing the separate characters. BvS was deemed to light, so they tried to jolly it up a bit with JL (like how Avengers was more fun). While trying to stay edgy.... Doesn't work. GotG seemed a hit, let's try and make a band of misfit movie in the same style....but edgy (Suicide Squad).
Trying to copy the MCU again with a Nick Fury character isn't what they need to do. And I doubt they will, since DCEU has basically confirmed they're going for a less tied-together cinematic universe. Which is fine by me really.

So a Batman Beyond movie Keaton as Old Bruce would be perfect. Now we just need a Terry. They should cast Tom Holland. He's agile and athletic so that works. And would be funny seeing him and Keaton together after Spider-Man Homecoming.

 

[Christopher]

What DCEU did wrong, in my opinion, is wanting to jump on the Avengers hype to soon, and make a team-up (JL) before properlly establishing the separate characters.

I've always found that argument a bit facile. Just because Marvel did it that way doesn't mean it's the only possible way to do it. There have been a number of successful cases of introducing a whole team in the first movie -- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990), X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, The Incredibles, Big Hero 6, and you could make a case for Mystery Men, Sky High, and Push (at least in terms of creative success). It can be done, and done well. The problem is simply that WB didn't do it well enough. Quality isn't about what you do, it's about how you do it.

So a Batman Beyond movie Keaton as Old Bruce would be perfect. Now we just need a Terry. They should cast Tom Holland. He's agile and athletic so that works. And would be funny seeing him and Keaton together after Spider-Man Homecoming.

As if Terry McGinnis weren't enough of a Peter Parker knockoff to begin with.

 

[Anwar]

What DCEU did wrong, in my opinion, is wanting to jump on the Avengers hype to soon, and make a team-up (JL) before properlly establishing the separate characters. BvS was deemed to light, so they tried to jolly it up a bit with JL (like how Avengers was more fun). While trying to stay edgy.... Doesn't work. GotG seemed a hit, let's try and make a band of misfit movie in the same style....but edgy (Suicide Squad).

It didn't help Suicide Squad that they took what was clearly supposed to be an R rated film and chopped parts out (or removed them from the script entirely) to make it PG.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

No.

Agreed.

And the yawning...continues.

You are not kidding.

No. I’m laughing at the intensely puerile, unsubstantiated, tediously tiresome, repetitive bovine excrement constantly found in your posts where you repeatedly offer a desperate, unfathomable, unfounded argument about Heath Ledger’s Oscar, owing to an irrationally expressed hatred of an approach to films based on comics that happens to differ from your exceedingly narrow vision of what constitutes an acceptable way to make such films. Only two reactions to your argument are warranted—dismissive laughter or...yawning.

Well said. Now that he's exposed, you will see another 500 posts saying "I did not mean that" or anything that pumps a certain film series. Same old nonsense and embarrassment.

 

[Mage]

I've always found that argument a bit facile. Just because Marvel did it that way doesn't mean it's the only possible way to do it. There have been a number of successful cases of introducing a whole team in the first movie -- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990), X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, The Incredibles, Big Hero 6, and you could make a case for Mystery Men, Sky High, and Push (at least in terms of creative success). It can be done, and done well. The problem is simply that WB didn't do it well enough. Quality isn't about what you do, it's about how you do it.

Sure, but my point about what WB did still stands, because we were talking about WB in this case, not the examples you brought in.

It didn't help Suicide Squad that they took what was clearly supposed to be an R rated film and chopped parts out (or removed them from the script entirely) to make it PG.

Oh true. It's interesting that not long ago the director of Suicide Squad made clear that a lot of what he did for the movie was cut by execs to create something that could be sold to a larger/younger audience.