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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

So you've finally given up the lie that Ledger didn't deserve his Oscar because of Hollywood's homophobia from... 3 years earlier?

It's not a lie. He didn't get the award because Brokeback was seen as too controversial, so they went for the next best choice of a biopic (which are also Oscar machines).
 
And this is the same reason why I feel that the Snyder cut of JL isn't going to be some grand reveal of greatness. I can't really see anything being left behind on the cutting table saving that movie.
Don't worry - IF Snyder fans don't like his release JL cut when it appears on HBO Max - expect the "OMG! DC still interfered -- RELEASE THE REAL SNYDER CUT NAO!" ;)
 
The people who like Snyder will like it. The rest of us, not so much.

Snyder‘s not exactly an unknown quantity at this point, so I see no reason to expect his fans won’t be happy with his version. It will be Snyder. It will be very, very Snyder.
 
So Brokeback came out in 2005. You know Ellen DeGeneres came out in the late 90s right?

You're aware that "Philadelphia" came out in 1993, 12 years before "Brokeback Mountain," and Tom Hanks won an Oscar for playing a gay character... right?

It's laughable at best to suggest 2005 Hollywood wouldn't give somebody an Oscar for playing a gay character - including love scenes.

This is insulting bullshit.

Agreed. But that's Anwar's platform: his homophobia, coughing up lies couched in revisionist history and constantly spiting on a dead man / disrespecting the fact of his legitimate Oscar win is all tied together by his neverending hatred of current DC films which have achieved things his obsession--the MCU--could not.
 
For anyone thinking that "The Schumacher Cut" would be some amazing revelation, you should check out the deleted scenes on the DVD/Blu-ray. You may be disappointed. Then again, you may not but at least you'll have a more realistic idea of what the longer cut would be like. All the films faults are still firmly in place, although I will admit that fleshing out some character work is almost always welcome.
I remember when it came out on special edition DVD in 2006 I saw those deleted scenes and I knew before that there was a longer, darker cut. But those deleted scenes aren't that, not all the deleted scenes of this longer cut are on that release, there is a lot more. If you add the music, effects and cut it into the movie, include alternate takes and change the actual layout of when each scene happens then it would be a very different cut.
 
They are going to be doing a new HBO-Max spin-off series focused on The Batman's version of the Gotham PD. The series is being created by The Batman's director, Matt Reeves, and Boardwalk Empire creator Terrence Winter. No word on cast yet, but it's probably safe to assume that Jeffrey Wright's Jim Gordon is going to play some role.
I'm a little surprised to see them doing another Gotham PD show so soon after Gotham ended.

I’m hoping that this will be what Gotham was initially rumoured to be, namely a cop show that happened to be set in city that was populated by supervillains and freaks, as oppose to the Batman prequel it became, and focussing on the cops.
 
I’m hoping that this will be what Gotham was initially rumoured to be, namely a cop show that happened to be set in city that was populated by supervillains and freaks, as oppose to the Batman prequel it became, and focussing on the cops.

That's what I wanted Gotham to be.

They say it's going to deal with police corruption, so I hope it doesn't shy away from addressing the nationwide problems with police brutality, racism, and militarization.
 
Agreed. But that's Anwar's platform: his homophobia, coughing up lies couched in revisionist history and constantly spiting on a dead man / disrespecting the fact of his legitimate Oscar win is all tied together by his neverending hatred of current DC films which have achieved things his obsession--the MCU--could not.

Exploitation of a dead man? You call that achieving anything?
 
If you add the music, effects and cut it into the movie, include alternate takes and change the actual layout of when each scene happens then it would be a very different cut.
Well, naturally. If you change a bunch of stuff then that changes the movie, but my point is that the deleted scenes give a more realistic idea of what the longer version is as opposed to some legendary alternate cut that somehow makes the movie a masterpiece. A lot of the deleted material is just as goofy and stupid as what is in the film.

I've also had a flick through the shooting script for the movie, and there's not much of any substance that isn't in the finished film or the released deleted scenes.
 
I’m hoping that this will be what Gotham was initially rumoured to be, namely a cop show that happened to be set in city that was populated by supervillains and freaks, as oppose to the Batman prequel it became, and focussing on the cops.
Yeah, this is what I'm hoping for, too. Gotham Central in TV form.
 
Pal, if you're ignoring how Biopics are like pure Oscar Bait you're more hopeless than I thought.
No. I’m laughing at the intensely puerile, unsubstantiated, tediously tiresome, repetitive bovine excrement constantly found in your posts where you repeatedly offer a desperate, unfathomable, unfounded argument about Heath Ledger’s Oscar, owing to an irrationally expressed hatred of an approach to films based on comics that happens to differ from your exceedingly narrow vision of what constitutes an acceptable way to make such films. Only two reactions to your argument are warranted—dismissive laughter or...yawning.
 
but my point is that the deleted scenes give a more realistic idea of what the longer version is as opposed to some legendary alternate cut that somehow makes the movie a masterpiece. A lot of the deleted material is just as goofy and stupid as what is in the film.
If your opinion of the theatrical cut is goofy and stupid then that would color your view. But speaking for myself here, extended or alternate cuts have changed my entire opinion of a movie.
The deleted scenes alone don't decide the tone of the film, there's the score, the color palette, alternate takes, cuts to dialogue, jokes could be removed. How much of what Jim Carrey did was in the script? If the Director's cut of the movie was 2hrs and 40 minutes then that was the cut and those scenes were intended to be part of the film and not throwaways.
 
The deleted scenes alone don't decide the tone of the film, there's the score, the color palette, alternate takes, cuts to dialogue, jokes could be removed.
The score, color palette, and editing choices were all made (or okayed) by Schumacher. What you're talking about is a re-edit after the fact. All I'm saying is, anyone expecting some amazing revelation from this "other cut" could likely be very disappointed. Assuming it ever gets released.

How much of what Jim Carrey did was in the script?
Surprisingly, quite a lot. I daresay they tailored the shooting script to his style ahead of time though.
 
All I'm saying is, anyone expecting some amazing revelation from this "other cut" could likely be very disappointed.

I wouldn't expect that, but as I said, I didn't mind Forever overall, and some more fleshing out of certain underdeveloped elements could be a moderate improvement. Not everything has to be hyperbole.
 
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