Lower Decks Trailer Analysis

[Jeyl]

You did hear it's a comedy right? You've seen comedies before, right? People doing funny goofy things, sometimes in a work environment. I've heard actual police officers describe Brooklyn 99 as the most realistic cop show they've seen. It's a comedy with Adults doing silly goofy things because thats what real people do sometimes. SHOCKING!!!!!

Comedy takes many different forms. Slapstick, Dark Comedy, Situational Comedy, physical comedy, ect. People don't need to do funny things for something to be hilarious.

Star Trek has always excelled at telling 'Situational Comedy' where the humor doesn't stem from in your face sight gags, but rather the natural ridiculousness of a situation. The Trouble With Tribbles is a good example of this since the story at face value is about dealing with a natural crises. What makes it funny is how one of the issues that causes this disaster happens to involve cute little pieces of carpet called Tribbles. I believed it.

LDS? I don't believe in it's humor being a natural fit for Star Trek. As a separate take on Star Trek that's not a part of canon? Sure. Like Adam West's Batman vs. Tim Burton's Batman. Two different takes on the main character, but they work on their own because they're not in the same universe. When they say this show actually occurs in the same Star Trek canon that's been around for 50 years, you're not adding to Star Trek. You're changing it to something that it is not.

 

[Aeolusdallas]

The phaser bit at the end gave me a chuckle.

That and the spear joke gave me the loudest laughs

 

[The Wormhole]

The MSD gag for some reason really puts a smile on my face.

 

[Tuskin38]

If "funny" means "actually makes me laugn," it wasn't funny. Looks stupid and loud. I would welcome funny.

Well humour is subjective. Not everyone has the same sense of humour.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I was tempted to say for a second , that this show doesn’t lend itself well to crossovers.

but I actually think, Sir Patrick Stewart will totally embrace voicing Captain Picard in this show.
Maybe not quite so over the top as on Family Guy or wherever he reprised the role before.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Don't worry, fans can manufacture rage out of anything. If Michael hadn't saved Mirror Georgiou, we'd likely be hearing this from the Peanut Gallery:
"Ermagahd, I don't care of she was Cannibalistic Space Hitler, Michael had no right leaving Emperor Georgiou to die like that! Humans of Star Trek are supposed to be advanced and enlightened, they don't leave people to die just because they're evil. Rescue everyone! That's Gene's Vision. Imagine if Michael took Georgiou back to the Prime Universe and gave her a chance redeem herself? That's the message of Star Trek. I'm so through with this inferior knock-off pretending to be Star Trek."

And then they keep watching and bitching anyway.

Truth. In fact people did behave this way towards a similar situation, Lorca leaving Mudd on the Klingon ship. People were pretty much saying all these things about Lorca. Lot's of talk about gene's vision and how starfleet officers should behave, further proof that Disco wasn't trek etc... Cue a few episodes later, when people were bitching about Burnham showing Georgiou mercy and a second chance despite the horrible things she had done. And before anyone jumps in says Mudd wasn't space hitler, you're right he wasn't. But he was an evil, manipulative piece of shit who allowed starfleet officers to be tortured and killed and willingly sold them out to save his own skin. Not to mention that when he finally came to get revenge on Lorca, he killed multiple starfleet officers and planned to destroy Discovery once he had gotten the spore drive.

This is why i can't take any of the blind hate comments or the people who make them seriously, they constantly contradict themselves and shift goal posts . They're so irrationally enraged that they didn't get the trek series they have been imagining for 20 years that there is literally nothing any of the new trek series could do to appease them.

 

[The Wormhole]

And before anyone jumps in says Mudd wasn't space hitler, you're right he wasn't.

Indeed, but he is into human trafficking. See, there's your social commentary right there: human trafficking, so heinous even Mirror Lorca doesn't approve.

 

[DaveyNY]

I just saw the trailer ...

I think I'm too old for this particular version of Star Trek.
I got my fill of "Ren & Stimpy"/"Pinky & the Brain" kinda humor years ago.

Oh well, I guess there had to come a time when some version of Trek wasn't going to appeal to me.

I'm not going to re-up with All Access for this.

 

[fireproof78]

They're so irrationally enraged that they didn't get the trek series they have been imagining for 20 years that there is literally nothing any of the new trek series could do to appease them.

Despite going through this before it still amazes me how much the imagined series and standard for Star Trek is treated as so immutable as to be inflexible, unable to adapt or to accept change in even small ways.

More than that, what blows my mind, is how every rejected change gets treated as though the soul of franchise is somehow at stake. Which is...bizarre, to say the least.

I'm not going to re-up with All Access for this.

The beauty of streaming platforms.

 

[Tosk]

Complaining about other people complaining is the best. And I should know, 'cause I'm technically doing it right now.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Despite going through this before it still amazes me how much the imagined series and standard for Star Trek is treated as so immutable as to be inflexible, unable to adapt or to accept change in even small ways.

I think there is a lot of psychology behind why this is so. Star Trek is a 'safe space' for a lot of people. A place they came to when they were getting picked on in school, having trouble making friends or generally just having a hard time in life. It's an old reliable chestnut, that was always predictable, never changing and gave an immersive world where outcasts could become King of the hill with their knowledge of make-believe Treknology, Klingonese and fictional galactic history. So it's understandable that people would be resistant to their comfort zone no longer being so comfortable. But to that I say, welcome to life, change is inevitable and the things these fans liked about past trek, is what killed it in the first place.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Complaining about other people complaining is the best. And I should know, 'cause I'm technically doing it right now.

If you're complaining about me complaining well then i'm going to complain about you complaining about complaining. *puts on Karen wig* I'm going to give you such a bad yelp review.

 

[The Wormhole]

If you're complaining about me complaining well then i'm going to complain about you complaining about complaining. *puts on Karen wig* I'm going to give you such a bad yelp review.

I'm going to report this post to the manager. I mean moderator.

 

[fireproof78]

Complaining about other people complaining is the best. And I should know, 'cause I'm technically doing it right now.

I'm going to report this post to the manager. I mean moderator.

We will have the moderator tarred and feathered and the forum torched. Will that satisfy all this complaining about complaining complaints.

I think there is a lot of psychology behind why this is so. Star Trek is a 'safe space' for a lot of people. A place they came to when they were getting picked on in school, having trouble making friends or generally just having a hard time in life. It's an old reliable chestnut, that was always predictable, never changing and gave an immersive world where outcasts could become King of the hill with their knowledge of make-believe Treknology, Klingonese and fictional galactic history. So it's understandable that people would be resistant to their comfort zone no longer being so comfortable. But to that I say, welcome to life, change is inevitable and the things these fans liked about past trek, is what killed it in the first place.

I think that psychology is fairly accurate, but it blows my mind that every sort of change feels like a threat, even though what started out as comfort is still readily available.

 

[Lord Garth]

I just can't believe how opinion of Lower Decks split along Star Trek Partisan Lines so completely (I'd say by about 95-99%) even though this series doesn't seem much like DSC or PIC at all.

That makes me extremely suspicious. At best, I think some people are taking their anger at DSC and PIC, which are very different shows, out on a series that doesn't deserve it. At worst, I think it's outright tribalism.

"Or it could be that some people just aren't interested in the show!" Partially true. But only partially. Like I said, opinion split down partisan lines a bit too neatly for that to be completely true. I don't buy it. There's more to it.

 

[fireproof78]

I just can't believe how opinion of Lower Decks split along Star Trek Partisan Lines so completely (I'd say by about 95-99%) even though this series doesn't seem much like DSC or PIC at all.

Indeed.I was expecting at least some sort of grace period...I mean, I didn't think it was going to happen, but I guess I was hoping.

 

[Trekker4747]

:takes notes:

"It's not okay to dislike the look of something instantly but it IS okay to like the look of something instantly...."

Wow! This is interesting stuff to learn!

 

[Kpnuts]

I just can't believe how opinion of Lower Decks split along Star Trek Partisan Lines so completely (I'd say by about 95-99%) even though this series doesn't seem much like DSC or PIC at all.

That makes me extremely suspicious. At best, I think some people are taking their anger at DSC and PIC, which are very different shows, out on a series that doesn't deserve it. At worst, I think it's outright tribalism.

"Or it could be that some people just aren't interested in the show!" Partially true. But only partially. Like I said, opinion split down partisan lines a bit too neatly for that to be completely true. I don't buy it. There's more to it.

Despite going through this before it still amazes me how much the imagined series and standard for Star Trek is treated as so immutable as to be inflexible, unable to adapt or to accept change in even small ways.

More than that, what blows my mind, is how every rejected change gets treated as though the soul of franchise is somehow at stake. Which is...bizarre, to say the least.

Or it could be that... the quality of all three shows isn't good enough for a lot of people?

I will happily accept a modernised or different Trek, as long as it's GOOD. But I don't think it has been. It reeks of "too many cooks" with its 18 producers on each show. The storylines are so convoluted, writing is bad, characters awful in Discovery's case, and this show here just doesn't seem funny, I'm not even sure what target demographic they're going for. I want to like CBSTrek but until they give us a good show...

(All in my opinion obviously)

 

[Tim Thomason]

I've seen entire magazine articles written around disecting trailers. Shortly thereafter I stopped taking trailer analysis so seriously because it is a bunch of self-fulfilling prophecy BS predicated on the writer already having disdain for the material.

You know, it was only a couple of days ago that people were demanding a trailer and I was hesitant and this is why. The trailer added nothing except drawing black lines of hatred in a franchise that espouses diversity and celebrating differences.

I'm going to go watch Dharma and Greg, a show about actually celebrating differences.

I like the show, and more importantly, the idea behind the show. Please read my post again, as I show no disdainment for the material. Many of my conclusions were drawn from extra-trailer material (the names, personalities, settings), as I've been a voracious studier of this project since its inception.

 

[Trekker4747]

Or it could be that... the quality of all three shows isn't good enough for a lot of people?

I will happily accept a modernised or different Trek, as long as it's GOOD. But I don't think it has been. It reeks of "too many cooks" with its 18 producers on each show. The storylines are so convoluted, writing is bad, characters awful in Discovery's case, and this show here just doesn't seem funny, I'm not even sure what target demographic they're going for. I want to like CBSTrek but until they give us a good show...

(All in my opinion obviously)

You're not allowed your own opinion! Believe and feel what everyone else does or suffer the consequences!