What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[CorporalCaptain]

I love "The Way to Eden"!

 

[marlboro]

I love "The Way to Eden"!

I like the concept, but don't care much for the episode. I wonder how it would have played out if it was written post Charlie Manson?

 

[Paul755]

I think Way to Eden would have been more interesting with McCoys daughter instead of Checkov’s ex.

 

[NCC-73515]

Another one for me is I think Deep Space Nine is overrated. Not saying it isn't good, but, I've never bought into it being the pinnacle of Star Trek on television simply because it did what the other shows didn't (or couldn't) do. I've often asked why fans love the show so much -- particularly when the war starts -- and I almost always get the same answer; they love the action. When those same fans use that reason for loving DS9 as a reason to hate Discovery.

If DS9 and Disco had the same number of episodes and seasons, and would've been made at the same time, they'd be a lot more similar.

Controversial opinion: I like Masks.

Masks is great! I love these mystic out-there crazytown episodes

Yet another mind rape episode, with us watching Picard watch a movie and Riker acting like an idiot to boot. Oh yeah, the probe that shuts down completely after one use, quite a way to save the memory of your civilization.

When the battery is empty, it's empty

The thing I couldn't get over is that these people were technologically sophisticated enough to build a machine that could do all that to Picard, but couldn't get off the planet or develop moisture-capture or drilling machines, or any kind of solution to their problem? I mean the technology required to do that to Picard's brain must have been incredibly sophisticated. But basically the society we saw was not technical at all.

I don't know. It's not a big deal and I'm sure there's some hand-wave explanation that would satisfy most fans (assuming they care about that to begin with).

They had a spaceflight genius and a mindprobe genius, but no solar or water geniuses. Or the former were rich and could build their stuff and do all the required R&D, while the latter didn't find the time or resources or attention they needed...

 

[Maurice]

I think the writers used Spock as a crutch. It feels like they just came up with a new Vulcan super power whenever they got stuck. Inner eyelid, katra, long distance telepathy and so forth.

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[BillJ]

When the battery is empty, it's empty

How many times have we watched our intrepid crews plug a battery in and start ancient machinery?

 

[STEPhon IT]

The Scimitar probably had FTL sensors, so it wouldn't work

Inside of the box, probably not, but outside of the box - I thought prepping TNG fans who knew of this maneuver and wasn't staged well in the series IMO got a big screen, SFX process, it would've been the highlight of a very lack luster movie. I would prefer a genuine strategic nautical decision to defeat the enemy who claimed he knew everything Picard could strive; show a sign of brilliance than ramming the ugly-Enterprise into Shinzon's ship.

 

[JesterFace]

I love the tonal shift in the show from TNG, it is a far more "realistic" feel to it, with so much of what happens being shades of grey, add to that great writing, strong characters who grow and develop over the series run but are still damaged and flawed, relationships that feel earned (O'Brien going from being annoyed by Bashir to seeing him as his closest friend).

Does realistic basically mean more like our world today? If TNG doesn't feel like our realistic world it basically works better as a Trek series that is about future being better and all those things.

 

[Tim Thomason]

In my opinion, Star Trek: Discovery is a [great/horrible/so-so] series. I hold the [same/opposite] view on Picard.

 

[JesterFace]

Controversial Star Trek opinion: Everyone is allowed to create their own headcanon. If there are things that just don't work for you, skip it. Create your own theories on some things if something doesn't seem to make sense. Watch what you like and be creative.

Also, TNG episode 'Imaginary Friend' is great.

 

[Nyotarules]

Both superior to Masks and The Inner Light.

Er........no

 

[fireproof78]

Does realistic basically mean more like our world today? If TNG doesn't feel like our realistic world it basically works better as a Trek series that is about future being better and all those things.

It means I believe that those are real people. For me.

 

[JesterFace]

It means I believe that those are real people. For me.

Does that mean you feel some people are not real at all?

 

[fireproof78]

Does that mean you feel some people are not real at all?

In fiction? Definitely.

 

[NCC-73515]

How many times have we watched our intrepid crews plug a battery in and start ancient machinery?

How many things have burned out beyond repair?

 

[AresB]

In fiction? Definitely.

TOS and TNG had plenty of characters, locations and situations that were by design theatrical, abstract and symbolic, rather than real.

 

[Admiral Archer]

Controversial Star Trek opinion: Everyone is allowed to create their own headcanon. If there are things that just don't work for you, skip it. Create your own theories on some things if something doesn't seem to make sense. Watch what you like and be creative.

Pretty sure in my dad's head canon, Sisko wasn't Captain of the USS Defiant, Worf was. My dad never saw DS9, and so when First Contact (his favorite Star Trek film of all) came out, he only had the evidence provided on the movie screen to extrapolate data from. Since it was not explicitly stated that the Defiant was Sisko's ship, or that it was even attached to DS9, he thought Worf had been given his own ship. As an old Navy enlisted man, he has told me stories that his submarine had a commanding officer who was a Commander by rank. Why then, in his head canon, could Worf not be a Commander by rank and still command the Defiant? (And yes, I know he was still a Lt. Commander, but he was also wearing command red, so Dad probably thought Worf had gotten another promotion between Generations and First Contact).

 

[Vger23]

Also, TNG episode 'Imaginary Friend' is great.

This is usually the episode I site when I am forced to acknowledge that TNG had some truly awful, meaningless episodes that were an absolute waste of time and money.

 

[fireproof78]

TOS and TNG had plenty of characters, locations and situations that were by design theatrical, abstract and symbolic, rather than real.

Sure, but if the main characters behaved in that way then it comes across as odd and off-putting since it appears to ignore human emotions.

 

[Orphalesion]

I speculate a lot of people who don't like Discovery might have been turned off by the early episodes of Season 1 (or Season 1 in general, perhaps)
Because that was what happened to me after watching both Seasons of Discovery now I thought it got a lot better, and friendlier, as it went along and while it still won't topple DS9 as my favourite Star Trek series, I'm kinda looking forward to season 3.

Sure, but if the main characters behaved in that way then it comes across as odd and off-putting since it appears to ignore human emotions.

This is not me trying to bash a series, honestly. But frequently in TOS I cannot even fathom why the characters are acting or reacting the way they do or what emotion they are trying to convey and why. Might be a generational thing, or me not being used to 1960s TV, I remember being similarly perplexed the one time I caught a rerun of Bonanza.