What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

I love "The Way to Eden"!

 

I like the concept, but don't care much for the episode. I wonder how it would have played out if it was written post Charlie Manson?

 

I think Way to Eden would have been more interesting with McCoys daughter instead of Checkov’s ex.

 

If DS9 and Disco had the same number of episodes and seasons, and would've been made at the same time, they'd be a lot more similar.

Masks is great! I love these mystic out-there crazytown episodes

When the battery is empty, it's empty

They had a spaceflight genius and a mindprobe genius, but no solar or water geniuses. Or the former were rich and could build their stuff and do all the required R&D, while the latter didn't find the time or resources or attention they needed...

 

How many times have we watched our intrepid crews plug a battery in and start ancient machinery?

 

Inside of the box, probably not, but outside of the box - I thought prepping TNG fans who knew of this maneuver and wasn't staged well in the series IMO got a big screen, SFX process, it would've been the highlight of a very lack luster movie. I would prefer a genuine strategic nautical decision to defeat the enemy who claimed he knew everything Picard could strive; show a sign of brilliance than ramming the ugly-Enterprise into Shinzon's ship.

 

Does realistic basically mean more like our world today? If TNG doesn't feel like our realistic world it basically works better as a Trek series that is about future being better and all those things.

 

In my opinion, Star Trek: Discovery is a [great/horrible/so-so] series. I hold the [same/opposite] view on Picard.

 

Controversial Star Trek opinion: Everyone is allowed to create their own headcanon. If there are things that just don't work for you, skip it. Create your own theories on some things if something doesn't seem to make sense. Watch what you like and be creative.

Also, TNG episode 'Imaginary Friend' is great.

 

It means I believe that those are real people. For me.

 

Does that mean you feel some people are not real at all?

 

In fiction? Definitely.

 

How many things have burned out beyond repair?

 

TOS and TNG had plenty of characters, locations and situations that were by design theatrical, abstract and symbolic, rather than real.

 

Pretty sure in my dad's head canon, Sisko wasn't Captain of the USS Defiant, Worf was. My dad never saw DS9, and so when First Contact (his favorite Star Trek film of all) came out, he only had the evidence provided on the movie screen to extrapolate data from. Since it was not explicitly stated that the Defiant was Sisko's ship, or that it was even attached to DS9, he thought Worf had been given his own ship. As an old Navy enlisted man, he has told me stories that his submarine had a commanding officer who was a Commander by rank. Why then, in his head canon, could Worf not be a Commander by rank and still command the Defiant? (And yes, I know he was still a Lt. Commander, but he was also wearing command red, so Dad probably thought Worf had gotten another promotion between Generations and First Contact).

 

This is usually the episode I site when I am forced to acknowledge that TNG had some truly awful, meaningless episodes that were an absolute waste of time and money.

 

Sure, but if the main characters behaved in that way then it comes across as odd and off-putting since it appears to ignore human emotions.

 

I speculate a lot of people who don't like Discovery might have been turned off by the early episodes of Season 1 (or Season 1 in general, perhaps)
Because that was what happened to me after watching both Seasons of Discovery now I thought it got a lot better, and friendlier, as it went along and while it still won't topple DS9 as my favourite Star Trek series, I'm kinda looking forward to season 3.

This is not me trying to bash a series, honestly. But frequently in TOS I cannot even fathom why the characters are acting or reacting the way they do or what emotion they are trying to convey and why. Might be a generational thing, or me not being used to 1960s TV, I remember being similarly perplexed the one time I caught a rerun of Bonanza.

 

Controversial.... Um

- I think TMP is one of the greatest achievements in the Trek franchise. If treated like you would treat 2001: A Space Odyssey it is art (that being said, I prefer TWOK and TUC if I'm wanting to watch a movie for Kirk and Co.)

- I place Discovery higher than Voyager.

- Generations was a huge mistake, the first of four (although I enjoyed FC) but it was necessary (arguably) for that kind of bonehead storytelling in the features to convince Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner to revisit the characters later on in Picard in a medium (Television) that allows for far better character development and resolution.

 

Interesting. I’m the opposite. I watch a lot of TOS, and I really get the characters, but, I got them from the very first episode I ever watched (Miri). I think the actors worked really hard to make them relatable.

The only DS9 episode I’ve seen is the Tribbles one, and, it really struck me that the DS9 actors seemed to be phoning it in. The TOS Tribbles episode is over-the-top, to be sure, but it works because the TOS actors are 100% committed. The DS9 actors’ performances were expressionless, aloof, indistinguishable, barely moving an eyebrow with the exception of the character Dax. I was particularly surprised by the captain, Sisko, because I’ve seen so many “who’s your favorite captain” rankings over the years, but he really didn’t seem up to the challenge of measuring up to Kirk; maybe he dared not even try. I know *nothing* about the character from that episode. (And why didn’t he shave??)

As for Discovery, yes, I only saw Season 1. And yes, everyone seemed so miserable and screwed up, and I don’t really see it as particularly relatable when people are emotional wrecks all the time. I felt like I was waiting the whole season for them to start behaving according to Starfleet Directives so we could get on with Star Trekking. I like The Orville much better, because the characters are more likable, and they actually follow Starfleet Directives and go on Star Treks, but even then they spend waaaay too much time with relationship issues, for me.

 

In the beginning, yes. There was a horrible war going on, and the one who had allegedly started it with her mutiny was right there. But little by little, over a number of episodes, they learnt to work as a crew, trust each other, and in the end stand together against the main villains and make peace.