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Kirk Looks Different
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Hysterical... 
That's quite funny really although Spock would never have a beard! (Not in this reality anyway) Plus I never realised just how good looking Shatner used to be until I saw this...
JB
JB
Deep fake technology will always do more harm than good. At the low end of harm, it produces distasteful junk. Aesthetic harm. Bad jokes.
Mid-range, it embarrasses legit actors with porn videos.
At the higher end of harm, it could wreck careers and, by sabotaging politicians, damage a whole nation's ability to choose decent candidates. The cure to that will be people not believing what they see.
Then will come the worst harm: actual monsters, let's say perpetrators of future genocides, will laugh it off when they are caught on video. They'll just say it's fake. The technology ultimately results in a "fog of unknowability" that can only benefit the worst of humanity at our expense.
Mid-range, it embarrasses legit actors with porn videos.
At the higher end of harm, it could wreck careers and, by sabotaging politicians, damage a whole nation's ability to choose decent candidates. The cure to that will be people not believing what they see.
Then will come the worst harm: actual monsters, let's say perpetrators of future genocides, will laugh it off when they are caught on video. They'll just say it's fake. The technology ultimately results in a "fog of unknowability" that can only benefit the worst of humanity at our expense.
“David Spade” looks more like KITH-era Dave Foley.
I don't know how close this technology is to producing something that will actually fool the human eye into thinking it's real. But the examples I've seen using Star Trek, Star Wars, etc. all have this "uncanny valley" fakeness that makes me instinctively want to puke when I see it.
Kor
Yeah, none of the Star Wars actor recreations has ever looked anything other than "pretty close." The movements are still too artificial.
The worst example I've seen recently was the attempt to recreate Jack Lord in an episode of the Hawaii Five-O update a few years ago. Creepy.
The worst example I've seen recently was the attempt to recreate Jack Lord in an episode of the Hawaii Five-O update a few years ago. Creepy.
But deep fake technology is getting "better" all the time, along with cheaper I'm sure. That's what software does.
They tried to recreate Jack Lord?? Who would do such a thing???
JB
JB
There's no way to stop it. It's a natural evolution of the technology. But, we've seen Deep Fakes in Star Trek, and it's discovery as a deep fake was uncovered. That's a ray of hope, for as falsifying technology will perpetually increase, so will our methods of detection. Right now, there are no ways of presenting a perfect fake that is undetectable, usually by the naked eye. Beyond that, all sorts of programs exist to scan and measure things on the pixel level, to determine inconsistencies that point to falsehood.
We're a long way off from making a fake that is undetectable, and with the ever-growing of society, will likely never reach it in our lifetime. We'll more likely create clones/robots/holograms for use in our videos before being able to create the perfect fake that can fool the detecting software.
Here you go:They tried to recreate Jack Lord?? Who would do such a thing???
JB
An interview with the producer indicated that it took a lot of time and money (for a TV show) to make that scene. And it still looked horrible. Even making the whole thing dark and shadowy didn't tone down the awfulness.
Kor
Thanks for that, Kor! The voice they used did not suit the concealed face which also looked far too young for Jack Lord! Was the other guy the new McGarrett? I've never seen the new version and have only seen the early episodes of the original!
JB
JB
I'd say one of the main reasons for this is that they're wrappiing the 'skins' of the originals around actors that themselves are only "pretty close" to how the originals move. Since they don't move the same way, they don't look right, especially to those of us that know the originals from viewing many of their performances over the years.
It will continue to be creepy until they figure out how to make the 'skins' look they way they got Gollum to look in LOTR, like he was actually present in the same lighting, etc. Once they figure that out, doing scenes like the one with the virtual Jack Lord will be harder to detect, but without actors with proportions within millimeters of the originals, they'll always move wrong.
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