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Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

Three distinct but similar nacelle designs, same hull..or is it?
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These appear to have some slightly different hull details.
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2 and 3 are the same.
What differences do you see?
 
Three distinct but similar nacelle designs, same hull..or is it?
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I'm not seeing any differences in hull details, other than the aforementioned two styles of nacelles, other than #2's bussards are orange and #3's are pink. What are you seeing?

These appear to have some slightly different hull details.
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OK, you're going to have to point out the differences, because I'm seeing two identical ships.
 
IIRC, all Starfleet vessels have subspace transponders broadcasting who they are, in the clear (unencrypted). I suspect it really wouldn't matter if his ship looks different or not. Any adversary would know exactly which is his flagship.

I was secretly hoping for him to appear in the E-E or a patched-together 3-engine AGT-style hotrod. What we got was a bit sloppy, but still functional.
 
The differences between #1 and #2/#3 are so minor that I'd say it's the same class ship but the #1s probably came out in 2396 and the #2s came out in 2398. It's like a different year of the same model car where they did a minor face-lift. Or, in this case, a nacelle-lift.

Like I said before, I'm okay with it this time. Under the circumstances of "It's a short scene and Picard doesn't focus on Starfleet!" But, long-term, I think they should create more new ships or bring back some old ones. I think if you had a fleet made up of Disco, TOS Movie, TNG, and Post-TNG Era ships, you'd have a pretty good melting pot for when you want to have a Big Massive Fleet.

Have the "newer" ships in the forefront, and the "older" ones more in the background, like they've been recommissioned because "Hey! We need ships with skeleton crews that we retrofitted and armed to the teeth for emergencies like this so we don't have to sacrifice the ships we normally use that are off doing other things!"
 
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IIRC, all Starfleet vessels have subspace transponders broadcasting who they are, in the clear (unencrypted). I suspect it really wouldn't matter if his ship looks different or not. Any adversary would know exactly which is his flagship.

I was secretly hoping for him to appear in the E-E or a patched-together 3-engine AGT-style hotrod. What we got was a bit sloppy, but still functional.
During combat not just before it, I expected the transponder signals to be encrypted.
 
I guess it's the difference between the Enterprise-D and, say, the Odyssey. Small but definite differences that aren't evident upon first glance but get noticed later by keen starship watchers.
 
I guess it's the difference between the Enterprise-D and, say, the Odyssey. Small but definite differences that aren't evident upon first glance but get noticed later by keen starship watchers.

I’m the keenest starship watcher out there, and I’m still not seeing any differences with those ships other than the nacelles and the lighting.
 
There were 3 Nebula types with different parts (oval dish with 2 supports, triangular dish with unique deflector, triangular dish with Galaxy deflector) that were still in the same class
 
I guess it's the difference between the Enterprise-D and, say, the Odyssey. Small but definite differences that aren't evident upon first glance but get noticed later by keen starship watchers.
The exterior of the Enterprise D and the Odyssey are exactly the same (the miniature was filmed unaltered for its DS9 appearance, and several of the shots were literal re-uses of Enterprise D footage), so this is a very apt comparison. ;)
 
The exterior of the Enterprise D and the Odyssey are exactly the same (the miniature was filmed unaltered for its DS9 appearance, and several of the shots were literal re-uses of Enterprise D footage), so this is a very apt comparison. ;)
Maybe he means the Venture?
 
Somebody said the Odyssey was slightly different in some surface respects from the Enterprise-D and I've been hearing that for a long time. They're both the same class starship but things were altered for DS9.
 
Somebody said the Odyssey was slightly different in some surface respects from the Enterprise-D and I've been hearing that for a long time. They're both the same class starship but things were altered for DS9.

Half of the time we saw the Odyssey, it was stock footage of the Enterprise-D from Emissary docked at the station. The actual new footage of the model flying through space and then getting destroyed seemed to be completely unchanged from its appearance in All Good Things only a month before. Some people have even mentioned that they could still see NCC-1701-D on the hull.

The Venture, on the other hand, still had the extensions on top of the nacelles that were added in AGT during the ‘future’ segments of the Enterprise.
 
Yeah, the Odyssey does have her own registry for the new footage, but you can make out a 1701-D in at least one shot. (On the nacelle strutt, IIRC?)
 
When they first show up, you can see two different nacelle types. The one (red) has more lit up bussard collectors right on the front. The (orange) one might be the same as the (green) one with two lit sections on the top & bottom front outer points.

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When they first show up, you can see two different nacelle types. The one (red) has more lit up bussard collectors right on the front. The (orange) one might be the same as the (green) one with two lit sections on the top & bottom front outer points.

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Yellow and green are definitely the same in that picture. Your yellow circle is around the starboard engine of the distant ship and your green circle is the port engine of the nearest ship. Both have the twin bussards in front, just viewed at two different angles.

Still only seeing two kinds of ships here. Unless they're counting different nacelle colors as different variants. Your green-circled engine appears to have red bussards, where as the yellow one seems to have brighter yellow-orange bussards. Your red-circled engine seems to have yellow-orange bussards, and I see others of this type with darker red bussards elsewhere in the fleet (making FOUR variants!) If this is how they're counting the individual class variants, then that would be absurdly and excessively pedantic. :lol:

If there are three (four?) distinct ship styles, I don't think we're going to really find out what they were until some kind of "Art of Picard" is published (maybe this?), covering that one specific thing, or Eaglemoss puts them out in their official line. I could see them doing multiple versions with nacelle color "repaint" variations to minimize up-front investment and maximize revenue generation.
 
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