CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by jespah, May 10, 2018.

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  1. JD

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    Alec Peters' recent action might not break the rules of the settlement, but it seems to be getting pretty damn close to me.
     
  2. jespah

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    It is. Doesn't stop him from trying.

    And now - my apologies - I didn't want this thread to get political. Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
     
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  3. motorhead

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    guys what is 45? we're not talking about handgun cartridges right?
     
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    Donald Trump. 45th President of the U.S.
     
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  6. motorhead

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    ah yeah that guy. you know he was a playable character in "Pizza Connection"? that's kind of a restaurant management game from the 90s.
     
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  7. 137th Gebirg

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    I did not know that - interesting!

    There is also a character not-so-subtly based on Trump in the Lukari campaign missions of Star Trek Online. He, of course, is a bombastic bad guy. Kentari Minister of Defense Pentaaro. The campaign was released in Q2 of 2017, right after the election/inauguration so, yeah, bit of projection going on there. :lol:
     
  8. fireproof78

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    I think he likes to push the line.
     
  9. GeorgeKirk

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    Agreed. How can Alec's product be confused with Viacom's when they're actually making things and he isn't? In the time since Prelude was finished, CBS has cranked out 2 seasons of Discovery (with a 3rd in post) one season of Picard, and has several new shows in various stages of preproduction. Alec's spent the last 6 years (or however long it's been) doing everything EXCEPT make a movie. From Viacom's perspective, spending additional money to go after this guy is probably like taking a flamethrower to the Hindenburg: what's the point?
     
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  10. Noname Given

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    I thought the whole situation was that they COULDN'T get the direct IP license for Star Trek for Star Fleet Battles, so they licensed the stuff in the Franz Joseph "Star Trek Technical Manual" (which Franz Joseph got the exclusive rights to maintain as his work - and which his estate maintains; after a small legal battle with Paramount back in the 1970ies)?

    You forgot the 6 "Short Trek" eps. which are effectively 'fan film' length themselves - showing that yes, you CAN do 15-20 minute Star trek stories, and even CBS/Paramount ARE doing such. ;)
     
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  11. motorhead

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    you're making me so sad. i like games, and i like star trek, but the combination never worked out as great as i had hoped. i think i played Star Trek - The Game (the one Tobias Richter made) on an A=500, honestly wondering about copyright even back then, as it wasn't anything "official". i played a star trek game on a GameBoy, but I don't remember, was it TNG already? The 90s TOS PC adventures (Judgement Rites and another) were ok, A final Unity (the TNG adventure) was a bit meh, the FPS games (Klingon Honor Guard etc) also. the myriad of qbasic and flash based "Enterprise kills Klingon ship" i don't count, same goes for all those bridge simulators and star ship tours and so on. i haven't play the strategy game actually. at some point MMOs became a thing, and i played some in the everquest and WOW era, and then, a LONG time after the hype was already kinda gone again STO came FINALLY out and i was really really looking forward to it and wanted to love it so much and hoped it would be the best thing ever, but it just wasn't :-(.
     
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  12. JD

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    I think the fact that the only cast member he predicts people will mock is Alec Peters, is pretty much an admission that he's a bad actor.
    I also had to laugh when he talked about not doing it for the accolades, since it always seemed to me like that was a big part of why Alec Peters started Axanar. He wanted the money, attention, and accolades he could get for making the biggest, bestest fan film ever!
     
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    @Noname Given ... Kind of soft of. I recall Steve Cole saying Task Force Games first went to CBS and was told to go to Franz Joseph. A few years later, FASA went to CBS and got a license. When their game hit the shelves, people started asking CBS why there were two Trek games on the market. CBS sent a team of lawyers to TFG to put the hammer down. TFG pulled out the letters they exchanged back when they started working on SFB. CBS couldn't pull the plug and were forced to negotiate a license deal.

    However, all that said, I was talking about the recent question posed to Steve Cole: "Now that you have a solid game engine developed, why not expand to other settings?" His answer, of course, was "no money in it."
     
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  14. Maurice

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    CBS? How long ago was this?
     
  15. Sgt_G

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    Star Fleet Battles "pocket edition" debuted at Origins 1979.

    The FASA role-play game was published in 1983, and their ship combat game in 1985.
     
  16. Matthew Raymond

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    I still think an officially licensed "Star Fleet Battles" fan film would be cool, although probably legally dubious.
     
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  17. Maurice

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    So Paramount, not CBS.
     
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  18. Sgt_G

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    Yeah, probably.
     
  19. drt

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    Exactly.

    Peters is never finishing Axanar, because once he does the money dries up. Since there's no product, it doesn't really hurt CBS (although I might be annoyed if i was one of their licensors). Really, the only people who are losing money on this are the fans who are paying to support Peters' lifestyle.
     
  20. Maurice

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    If one is unsure of the timeline it's better to say "the studio" or "TPTB" (the powers that be) than "CBS', since Star Trek's ownership changed hands a few times.