CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by jespah, May 10, 2018.

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  1. fireproof78

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    And the Space Force logo is not derivative of the Starfleet logo but we never let facts get in the way now do we ;)
     
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  2. Sgt_G

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    No, it's derived from the USAF Space Command logo which predates the first use of the Starfleet logo.
     
  3. 137th Gebirg

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    Yep. Here it is, established in 1982:
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    Nearly all, if not all, members of the USSF derive from existing USAF personnel or from recent Cadet graduates of the Academy at Colorado Springs.

    In fact, their uniforms and rank structure closely follow previously-established USAF uniform code.

    A wise move to pick this logo, IMO, considering the other hideous design concepts they were looking at for their contest last year.
     
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  4. Noname Given

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    Again, CBS got what they wanted (for now) - and that's for Alec to acknowledge THEY (CBS ) own/control the Star Trek IP. That said, if merchandising licensees, see what Alec is now doing with his Patches/Posters, and new Kickstarters to promote/sell these items (and he sells A LOT) - and they bring this up when they are negotiating the fees/cost structure of their licensing agreements; Alec will get another lawsuit from CBS.

    But until it ultimately affects CBS/Viacoms profit margin WRT Star Trek; or somehow is seen as damaging the public view towards CBS/Viacom or the Star Trek IP; no, CBS/Viacom won't waste the time on further court actions, court costs or legal retainer fees to further 'prosecute' Alec in Civil court. I'm sure they may occasionally send him a warning letter (like they have in the past even by Alec's own admittance) - which is enough to show in any possible future court action by them (or Alec possibly trying to claim TM abandonment) they are legally taking action to protect their various Star Trek Trademarks.

    So yeah, Alec will continue to make a living off of exploiting the Star Trek IP by bilking money from some truly stupid/gullible fans, as long as CBS sees it at a 'nickel and dime' level, and it doesn't affect their Star Trek merchandising and licencing arm in a major way.
     
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  5. Daddy Todd

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    That kinda makes it even funnier!

    But this isn't the place for politics.
     
  6. Tuskin38

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    Is the Ares bridge using touch screen controls?
    But it's Pre-TOS!!11!!!!
     
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  7. motorhead

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    is the Interlude-Trailer a joke? displays "a star trek fan production" at 12 seconds in the title card because copyright, but uses the SPACE: 1999 theme throughout the thing as music because haha fuck copyright ?
     
  8. Matthew Raymond

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    It's not just the music. He's clearly aping the entire style of the opening of Space: 1999, although I'll leave it up to the copyright lawyers to determine if it's a "parody".
     
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  10. Sgt_G

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    {sigh} Klingon ships firing torpedoes from the deflector dish. {sigh}
     
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  11. captainkirk

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    Maybe it's like The Room. It starts off as an attempt at a serious movie and once they realize how bad it is, they try to claim it's a comedy.
     
  12. Nerys Myk

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    Is bugged eyed crazy Peters' default expression when "acting"? More Tracy than Garth.
     
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  13. Soong-type Android

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    The guy behind this could have just made an independent sci fi movie with an original storyline and his own characters instead of an expensive 15 minute fan film.
     
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  14. King Daniel Beyond

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    It's okay it's "Axanar Universe" whatever that means.
     
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  15. Matthew Raymond

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    Well, he clearly states in the article that it was a deliberate homage, and the trailer was implemented competently enough that I didn't need the article to tell me that. But the paradox here is that, if you're saying the trailer was so bad that it ended up being an accidental parody of Space: 1999, you're actually arguing FOR his fair use defense.
    Wait, do we need to feed the starving children first, or can we fund the indie sci-fi films at the same time? And how many indie films to I need to do before I can get to make a fan film?
    Or they're just physical buttons under a plastic membrane, like on most microwaves and fridges. Or they ARE using touchscreens, but they get replaced later with physical controls for the same reason we still uses physical keyboards. Or maybe Mr. Lane was using someone else's bridge set because he couldn't afford to build his own from scratch and we're judging him for another person's continuity mistakes. Nah, it's probably the first one.
    Perhaps it means that the fan film is based on a franchise that's been a fictional multiverse since before I was born, or that he wants his fan film to be in continuity with the "Axanar" fan film, or that there's already precedent for this kind of terminology thanks to the "Avalon Universe". But I'm just spitballing here.
     
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  16. BillJ

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    Peters is living off of this money. An original sci-fi premise wouldn't make fans part with their money the way "Star Trek" in the title does.
     
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  17. captainkirk

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    No, I'm saying that maybe they realized Interlude itself was so bad that the best thing to do was treat it as a parody. I haven't read the article, but I can't think of a good reason to promote your fan film based on an American sci-fi series as a spoof of a British series.
     
  18. drt

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    Including Prelude, Peters has raised in the neighborhood of $2.5 million to date. Even accounting for his various misadventures (such as the original warehouse "studio" in California), plus the actual onscreen results maybe adds up to around a million bucks actually spent on Axanar. The rest obviously went into his pockets.
     
  19. Sgt_G

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    Yes, that's true. Someone recently asked Steve Cole if he ever thought of porting the Star Fleet Battles game-engine to another franchise, either to a different IP universe or to an original setting. Steve's reply was "Trek's were the money's at, so that's where we'll stay." Of course, the big difference is Steve holds a license contract and pays royalties to the Trek IP owners.
     
  20. Lynx

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    Honestly, I think that Paramount should put more effort in trying to come up with a good Star Trek series than bickering about "Axanar".