Spoilers Seriously though...what was the point of the Borg subplot?

[eschaton]

Elinor was abandoned on the Artifact (when Picard didn't come back, he did what he thought was his duty and went in after him).

Elnor was frightened out of his mind.

No. Elnor was directly instructed by Picard to remain on La Sirena with Rios, Jurati, and Raffi. He refused the order, and transported over to save Picard's life. This is understandable, because he views Picard as the (absent) father he never had, and has sworn a vow to his cause.

However, he then abandons Picard at the end of The Impossible Box. Oh, he claims that he's defending Picard's exit, but Hugh says he has things covered, and Picard explicitly asks Elnor to come along. At best one could argue he's staying behind to stop Hugh from having to sacrifice himself shutting down the gate. But Elnor could have easily just waited and dispatched the next group of guards, then jumped through as Hugh shut down the gate.

In the end Elnor stays behind because the needs of the plot require one main cast member to stay on the Artifact, and for whatever reason, the writers decided on it being him. In staying behind however they kinda wrecked his character. I mean, he's only really been with the main cast on camera for Freecloud - so maybe a week or two tops? And he already leaves Picard behind?

 

[Danja]

In the end Elnor stays behind because the needs of the plot require one main cast member to stay on the Artifact, and for whatever reason, the writers decided on it being him. In staying behind however they kinda wrecked his character. I mean, he's only really been with the main cast on camera for Freecloud - so maybe a week or two tops? And he already leaves Picard behind?

He's a hothead (He did what he thought was the right thing -- when Picard didn't come out, he went in after him).

Things didn't turn out very well afterwards.

 

[eschaton]

the Borg cube plot ran along in every episode when it could have been better confined or used more sparingly?

Not quite accurate - there were no Artifact scenes in Stardust City Rag.

Going through the episodes.

1. Brief teaser at the end that introduced Soji and Narek. I guess it's needed to get their name in the credits for the week?
   
   
2. Soji and Narek hook up. Soji meets the black trill female scientist we never see again, which serves as our more formal introduction to how the Artifact works (though none of it ends up mattering in the longer run). We see Soji speaking to the xB in their own language. Narissa calls in to Narek in her "Rizzo" disguise.
   
   
3. Soji meets up with Hugh. We get the intriguing scenes with the "disordered" Romulan xBs. Then more Soji/Narek drama, and another tedious Narek/Narissa scene.
   
   
4. Brief scene with Soji watching a video of pre-Borg Ramdha. More Soji/Narek scenes, including sliding shoeless down the corridor. Another Narek/Narissa scene which is completely redundant with what came before. The scenes this week really added nothing to the plot at all, and could have been excised entirely.
   
   
5. As noted, a total absence.
   
   
6. Basically everything took place on the Artifact, other than some scenes on La Sirena, and it worked really well.
   
   
7. Narissa being evil, killing xBs in front of Hugh. Elnor comes up to Hugh and - despite La Sirena offering a rescue and a way back to Picard - decides to stay on The Artifact. Hugh gets murdered in front of Elnor. Then later, Elnor finds the ranger fob, and activates it. Basically it's the absolute minimum number of scenes needed to move the plot along here.
   
   
8. The first Artifact scene is Narissa over her aunt Ramdha - probably the most effective Narissa scene because it shows there's a layer to her beyond "evil." Elnor fights and gets captured, but Seven shows up and saves his ass. There's a number of later scenes - all of which involve the cat-and-mouse between Narissa and her forces and Seven and Elnor. The episode probably has the most Artifact content after the sixth, though it comes across as more generic action shlock which serves as a counterpoint to the heavy emotional stuff happening on La Sirena.
   
   
9. One small set of scenes near the beginning of the episode where they go to the crashed Artifact, and find Seven, Elnor, and a handful of surviving xBs.
   
   
10. One of the first scenes shows Elnor and Seven talking on the cube (no xBs in sight) with Narek skulking in the background, and later running into Narissa with more pointless sibling drama. After this, the only remaining use for the Artifact is a backdrop for the catfight between Narissa and Seven.

Looking at it this way - almost scene for scene, a lot of issues jump out.

• Once they establish Soji and Narek are hooking up, they don't do anything to really covey a sense of movement in the relationship until Narek's betrayal of her in the sixth episode. They could have shown them together just once, and it would have been as effective.
• Every single Narek/Narissa scene is identical. She is always condescending and oddly flirty, he's always defensive and uncomfortable. Their sibling relationship is entirely static across the season, which is why the show grinds to a halt whenever they are on screen together. It would have been much better if Narek ...well...grew a pair over the course of the season.
• Narissa's other scenes aren't much better, because other than the single time she gets to talk to her unconscious aunt, she's just pure evil (and campy as all hell), which makes all the interactions that she has with Elnor/Hugh/Seven in the later episodes come across so badly.

 

[eschaton]

That said, Hugh and Seven were some of the best parts of the season, so I can't agree they made it worse.

I agree with this. But Seven's introduction wasn't really related to the Artifact per se, and she could have been used even without it being featured. Hugh is a more complicated question, but that could have easily been left to the second season.

The XB subplot allowed PIC to explore the ways in which the galaxy marginalizes people who are synthetic or partly synthetic; it allowed PIC to explore how fragmented Romulan society had become; it allowed PIC to explore Jean-Luc's PTSD over his assimilation; it allowed PIC to examine ways in which Jean-Luc still had some prejudices about synthetics in spite of being more open-minded than many Federates; it allowed the writers to have fun business with Hugh and with Seven of Nine.

I don't think the ending of the XB subplot was as dramatically satisfying as I would have preferred, but on balance it was a good subplot and I'm glad it was there. B+.

I never got the idea that the xBs were hated because they were partially synthetic. There are other augmented races like the Bynars after all. I presumed it was just because they came very close to assimilating the entirety of the Alpha and Beta Quadrants. I mean, surviving groups of Jem'Hadar would probably be looked at in much the same way.

 

[lawman]

On the one hand, I agree that including the Cube and the XBorgs in this season made sense thematically and character-wise, for the reasons others have described—e.g., the parallels with synths, the element of Picard facing his old demons.

On the other hand, I agree that the actual execution of the XBorg (sub)plot fell considerably short of its potential, expecially in the back half of the season, in many of the ways Eschaton describes.

Basically, the writing staff seems to have been juggling three balls all season long, and although the balls made a nicely matched set, they just got to be a little too much to handle toward the end. Maybe it all could have played out more effectively if the season were 12 episodes long instead of 10.

 

[Danja]

• Once they establish Soji and Narek are hooking up, they don't do anything to really covey a sense of movement in the relationship until Narek's betrayal of her in the sixth episode. They could have shown them together just once, and it would have been as effective.

What about the "Borg Ritual"?

 

[NCC-73515]

What about the "Borg Ritual"?

Most stupid scene of the franchise

 

[eschaton]

Here's another theoretical:

In The Impossible Box, when Soji finally activates, she kills Narek (we know Narek is no longer needed at this point because Narissa says the "two red moons" was good enough information to kill Soji). Then, as Picard, Soji, and Elnor escape, from the Artifact, Hugh stays behind and sacrifices himself. This means no Artifact scenes in the remainder of the season, and they'd have to find some other excuse to bring back Seven for the finale.

Would anything of value be lost from the narrative at that point? Anything at all? Hell, I'd argue that it would be more impactful, because Hugh's sacrifice would be immediately known to Picard, who will have yet another death on his hands, instead of his dying in front of Elnor, who he barely knew.

 

[JoseNoodles]

The scene with Seven in the Queen's chamber implied to me that we will have to deal with a Borg Queen Seven in the future. I don't know if that thread will actually be picked up, but I saw the groundwork being laid. If that does become the case, she has a bunch of XBs on the crashed cube she use, and maybe do something with the androids too...

 

[Danja]

The scene with Seven in the Queen's chamber implied to me that we will have to deal with a Borg Queen Seven in the future. I don't know if that thread will actually be picked up, but I saw the groundwork being laid. If that does become the case, she has a bunch of XBs on the crashed cube she use, and maybe do something with the androids too...

She had a chance to go back to the Borg in "Dark Frontier" (VOY). She walked away.

Seven is not stupid. Becoming Borg Queen (again) would mean placing the very people she loves (including Raffi) in danger. Besides, it took everything she had to be Borg Queen for a few minutes.

 

[JoseNoodles]

I don't mean that she intentionally wants to be Queen, I mean that she is going to be possessed by the Queen's consciousness. Doesn't she say something like "I'm not done with Annika yet" when she's connected to the chamber. It's obviously not Seven's whose talking.

 

[Danja]

I don't mean that she intentionally wants to be Queen, I mean that she is going to be possessed by the Queen's consciousness. Doesn't she say something like "I'm not done with Annika yet" when she's connected to the chamber. It's obviously not Seven's whose talking.

Exact line: "Annika still has work to do."

It's one reason Seven left.

 

[JoseNoodles]

But who was saying it? I don't think Seven would refer to herself in the third-person, much less her old name. I interpreted it as some sinister force, the Queen or the Collective itself speaking, saying they have something planned for her.

 

[Danja]

But who was saying it? I don't think Seven would refer to herself in the third-person, much less her old name. I interpreted it as some sinister force, the Queen or the Collective itself speaking, saying they have something planned for her.

The Collective spoke through Seven.

Seven is not the same person that she was on Voyager.

The Borg may well want Picard's upgraded positronic brain. We could very well be looking at a civil war within the Borg (xBs vs. the Old Guard "Resistance Is Futile" faction).

Picard would sacrifice himself before allowing the Borg to assimilate him again (he's already dead). It would make a fitting ending to the series if he were to sacrifice himself for Sirena in a similar manner that Data sacrificed himself for Picard (the series began as a sequel to Star Trek: Nemesis).

 

[JoseNoodles]

Seven is not the same person that she was on Voyager.

Really? I always thought she was an embittered member of a (right-wing?) paramilitary group.

The Borg may well want Picard's upgraded positronic brain. We could very well be looking at a civil war within the Borg (xBs vs. the Old Guard "Resistance Is Futile" faction).

I don't know how interested the Borg are in positronics. In BoBW, Data was going to be obsolete in the new order. In First Contact, he was the Queen's squeeze, but he was mostly a pawn to get Picard.

 

[Danja]

It's no longer Seven's battle to fight (Copellius now has diplomatic relations with the Federation and is now under the protection of Starfleet).

 

[Lord Garth]

Basically, the writing staff seems to have been juggling three balls all season long, and although the balls made a nicely matched set, they just got to be a little too much to handle toward the end. Maybe it all could have played out more effectively if the season were 12 episodes long instead of 10.

I think they should've made Picard's seasons as long as Discovery's. The best I can figure is the smaller episode count made Patrick Stewart more willing to join.

 

[Sci]

Brief scene with Soji watching a video of pre-Borg Ramdha. More Soji/Narek scenes, including sliding shoeless down the corridor. Another Narek/Narissa scene which is completely redundant with what came before. The scenes this week really added nothing to the plot at all, and could have been excised entirely.

I have no idea how you could look at that wonderful, wonderful scene with Narek and Soji "roller blading" barefoot down the Artifact corridor and think that's not worth keeping. It was such an emotionally important scene to their journeys.

 

[Nightdiamond]

I have to agree on this one.

An abandoned Borg cube in Romulan space after the Super Nova, where The Fed is helping to administer a Rehabilitation program for XBs in the aftermath of an evacuation crises. I'm not sure on the exact time sequences.

Something like this needs to be introduced step by step in order for at least some viewers to ingest it all.

Some viewers will take to the idea right away, but other viewers are going to have a harder time digesting all of that, especially with all the other story lines going.

I liked Seven of Nine's appearance and her newer attitude. I also liked Hugh and Picard's reunion, and Hugh Elnor's cliffhanger standoff against the Romulans.

But the Borg subplot has an awkward feel and brings up a lot of questions.

 

[Go-Captain]

If the entire season focused on the Borg cube it could have made a lot more sense and wouldn’t even need a major battle. Just firmly focus on characterization with Picard, Hugh, and 7, their different perspectives on what it meant to be a drone, what it means to be human, and how they live their lives.

It doesn’t even need to be about the Romulans but keeping the cube in Romulan space is interesting because we could see aspects of the Unification movement, or Federation openness fighting with its own fears, versus Romulan paranoia over de-assimilation and desire to take advantage of the ex drones.

Picard could still have PTSD over being on the cube and seeing not yet un-assimilated ex drones. Instead of taking up one episode his growth could be over several.