Donny's Refit Enterprise Interiors (Version 2.0)

[Christopher]

The SFS novelization by Vonda McIntyre spends several chapters filling in the interval immediately after TWOK before eventually starting to adapt the movie proper, and it posits a gap of only about 3 days between movies, which seems way too brief. I think it's more likely a matter of weeks, however long it takes to limp back to starbase for repairs and so on.

The novel The Genesis Wave Book One by John Vornholt contains a chapter written by David Mack that's an official Starfleet report on the Genesis affair, and it gives precise dates: The Genesis planet was created on March 26, 2285 (4 days after Kirk's birthday, which is the same as Shatner's), and destroyed on April 29, 2285. That's about a month between movies, which seems about right to me.

 

[RedForman]

To me, TMP swung one way in terms of aesthetics (muted pastels, neutral colors etc) and TWOK swung the other. TSFS therefore, attempted to strike something of a balance IMO (before the process started all over again with TFF and then TUC)

 

[Tallguy]

The SFS novelization by Vonda McIntyre spends several chapters filling in the interval immediately after TWOK before eventually starting to adapt the movie proper

The movie doesn't start until page 85 of a 300 page book. It's terrific.

 

[Mytran]

The movie doesn't start until page 85 of a 300 page book. It's terrific.

Now my curiosity is really peaked!
Added to my wish list

 

[Nightowl1701]

Vonda was definitely an 'everything and the kitchen sink' kind of writer.

 

[Maurice]

Now my curiosity is really peaked!
Added to my wish list

Curiosity gets piqued. Mountains get peaked.

 

[cardinal biggles]

The movie doesn't start until page 85 of a 300 page book. It's terrific.

Vonda was definitely an 'everything and the kitchen sink' kind of writer.

She practically had her own side-continuity in those novels; the TWOK novelization was written based on the shooting script, as her novel includes things that were filmed but cut (even from the later ABC-TV and Director's Cut versions) including Saavik's Romulan heritage, Sulu's pending command of the Excelsior, and one or two flirty bits between Saavik and David. When TSFS rolls around and it's clear that Nimoy wanted Robin Curtis to take Saavik in a more pure-Vulcan direction, McIntyre doubles down and keeps going in her own direction. It's glorious.

 

[137th Gebirg]

^^^ IIRC, there was a hint of something alive in the Genesis Cave - Saavik felt like she was being stalked. Never elaborated on it, though. I wonder if Regulus also collapsed in the same way that the Genesis Planet did, also presumably made from Protomatter. This was likely why it was never approached again in subsequent films or series, because most of the data got destroyed with the Reliant, and whatever was left on Spacelab Regula I got incinerated when its host planetoid blew up. All the tech and research was destroyed down to the last bit.

 

[cardinal biggles]

^It's been years since I read it, but I sort of remember the scene you're talking about. The cave always puzzled me — what was generating the sunlight?

 

[Nightowl1701]

At a guess, the biggest damn ceiling-mounted sunlamp you ever heard of. Size of a 4x4 at least.

 

[Mytran]

Curiosity gets piqued. Mountains get peaked.

Nah mine is special

^It's been years since I read it, but I sort of remember the scene you're talking about. The cave always puzzled me — what was generating the sunlight?

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Vonda McIntyre has you covered there too - there's actually a small artificial star which the scientists installed in order to provide light and energy for their project:

She practically had her own side-continuity in those novels; the TWOK novelization was written based on the shooting script, as her novel includes things that were filmed but cut (even from the later ABC-TV and Director's Cut versions) including Saavik's Romulan heritage, Sulu's pending command of the Excelsior, and one or two flirty bits between Saavik and David. When TSFS rolls around and it's clear that Nimoy wanted Robin Curtis to take Saavik in a more pure-Vulcan direction, McIntyre doubles down and keeps going in her own direction. It's glorious.

Wasn't there also a bit about teenagers enlisting in Starfleet, which is what Peter Preston had done? Awesome, worldbuilding stuff. Have ordered both ST3 and ST4, can't wait to get stuck in

 

[Maurice]

Wasn't there also a bit about tennagers enlisting in Starfleet, which is what Peter Preston had done? Awesome, worldbuilding stuff. Have ordered both ST3 and ST4, can't wait to get stuck in

Actually, in early work on "The Conscience of the King" the idea was that Kirk was a cadet who happened to be on Tarsus. Given the timelime he'd have been around 14.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

I don't think it was a matter of years, but maybe a matter of months, depending on how long it took the Federation to respond to this issue.

Yeah, in my ST Timeline I place about six months between TWOK and TSFS. (TWOK takes place at the end of March, TSFS in October.) Partly to accommodate the first few issues of DC's Star Trek, and partly to give the Enterprise crew more time to miss Spock before he's resurrected.

 

[FormerLurker]

Nah mine is special

Vonda McIntyre has you covered there too - there's actually a small artificial star which the scientists installed in order to provide light and energy for their project:

Wasn't there also a bit about teenagers enlisting in Starfleet, which is what Peter Preston had done? Awesome, worldbuilding stuff. Have ordered both ST3 and ST4, can't wait to get stuck in

She's also very anti-KIrk, having Peter Preston's sister Dannan get angry about how Admiral Kirk has now twice taken over command of the Enterprise, only for the assigned captain to die on the mission.

 

[Commodore Miles]

Yeah, in my ST Timeline I place about six months between TWOK and TSFS. (TWOK takes place at the end of March, TSFS in October.) Partly to accommodate the first few issues of DC's Star Trek, and partly to give the Enterprise crew more time to miss Spock before he's resurrected.

That sound like a pretty good compromise time wise.

 

[Christopher]

The problem with trying to incorporate DC's post-TWOK comics is that they began with the Enterprise back at Earth for an uncertain amount of time before the first issue, but TSFS is pretty clearly the first time the ship has come back to Earth since the creation of the Genesis Planet, and the first time they've had to face the fallout from the event.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

The problem with trying to incorporate DC's post-TWOK comics is that they began with the Enterprise back at Earth for an uncertain amount of time before the first issue, but TSFS is pretty clearly the first time the ship has come back to Earth since the creation of the Genesis Planet, and the first time they've had to face the fallout from the event.

Yeah, but that's just a reflection of TSFS not having been made yet when Mike W. Barr was writing the initial issues of the comic. He was shooting at a moving target, continuity-wise, so of course it's not going to fit perfectly. It's no different than you writing a Trek novel only to find it contradicted by a live-action production a couple of years later.

 

[Lt. Washburn]

With all the talk a little while ago about the tricorder and the flip-open panel, did anyone post these Probert concept illustrations?

 

[Retrograde Orbit]

@Donny
You need to model those Probert sketches, like right now buddy...

 

[Donny]

With all the talk a little while ago about the tricorder and the flip-open panel, did anyone post these Probert concept illustrations?

@Donny
You need to model those Probert sketches, like right now buddy...

I've actually always loved that second tricorder concept a lot. Maybe I'll model it if I ever do a Phase II round of modeling.

Just so everyone knows, I'm taking a break right now. I actually tried to sit down and do some modeling yesterday but I just wasn't feeling it. Kind of getting burned out and it's bleeding into my actual day job, so I figure it's good to take a pause and concentrate on self-care, relaxation, and video games in my free-time. But, as always, the motivation will come roaring back and I'll be back at it soon!

Speaking of the TSFS novelization....I remember checking that out from the library as a kid and I was REALLY confused because the novel was nothing like the movie so I stopped reading. Didn't realize it got into the actual movie a third of the way through until I read about it as an adult. Silly me.