Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard
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Kaplan F17 Speed Freighter. The ship every young kid dreams of piloting 
Is that not around the size of the Defiant? Which would indicate that the ship Riker led being part of a kind of peace keeping task force or response squadron like Sisko mentioned the original Defiant was supposed to be.
I think you're confused. Riker's ship was the 'Zhang He', 'La Sirena' is Rio's ship.
That would make it half the length of the Defiant, if you go by the DS9 tech manual number of 170.68 meters, and according to DS9 Visual Effects Supervisor David Stipes, the CG model of the Defiant was 170.5 meters long.
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The original Defiant was the Nova
170.688 meters (560 feet) is what the VFX and the art departments used except when they didn’t.
I’d say ”no” because they’d have to be built as production-ready digital models, and why should anyone waste time perfecting the Defiant class (or winging it like Data’s makeup) when they could fire up their own imagination and come up with a brand-new ship design?
Because, since production personnel thought it was okay to re-use anachronistic 23rd century Discovery-era shuttles and capital ships early on in both a short episode and series taking place in the dawn of the 25th century, why not the Defiant, which would be more period-correct? There should be a few of those still bouncing about out there and there are plenty of compatible fan-made models that likely look 1000% better than what they could come up with on a limited budget. Just throw some money at someone for a thumb drive of their mesh and move on...
Don't see the problem.
Don't see the problem.
Yes, but nobody is saying they should’ve done this, which is what you’re asking. Instead, they absolutely should’ve designed new shuttles following up on the TNG film designs by John Eaves, which implies thinking about the logical followup to what had been an abandoned prototype designed to fight the Borg. Suppose the next iteration doesn’t even need a crew of 50 and is nothing but an unmanned pile of weapons systems?
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But they did, so there's no reason whatsoever why they can't include a Defiant or other mid-late 24th century vessel as background fleet flotsam.
And I didn't ask the question, BTW, that was DEWLine. I'm just simply agreeing with their statement, based on the current facts.
And I didn't ask the question, BTW, that was DEWLine. I'm just simply agreeing with their statement, based on the current facts.
But if they did, and it wasn’t ideal, then they should stop doing it.
They probably won't, as their resources for such work seem to have been demonstrably limited, based on the quality of the meshes used in the finale.
Which is fine - as much into starship porn as I am, I'm more concerned with having a good story to make it all worth while. I found the presence of 23rd century ships to be somewhat jarring, but not a deal-breaker. Just saying, the precedent has now been set - they can pretty much do whatever they want.
Which is fine - as much into starship porn as I am, I'm more concerned with having a good story to make it all worth while. I found the presence of 23rd century ships to be somewhat jarring, but not a deal-breaker. Just saying, the precedent has now been set - they can pretty much do whatever they want.
I’d prefer Star Trek to be the kind of franchise that evolves a consistent future setting, and this is one area where that would’ve been possible with no controversy and just a little more effort. EAS argues that those shuttles can be contemporary if DSC is omitted from PIC’s visual continuity (and the hologram of Pike’s Enterprise ignored), but I don’t think that’s sustainable: flashbacks could reuse TOS footage as-is, then switch to DSC environments with no questions asked, and we’d just be expected to weld the two together.
So in terms of what should be done, the answer is simply to keep designing ships and avoid problematic reuse.
So in terms of what should be done, the answer is simply to keep designing ships and avoid problematic reuse.
Time and manpower? Rumour is they had a week to complete the shot.
And no they couldn't just use a fan-made model off the internet, it doesn't work like that.
