Ya and if you can just get off with starting a war gainst the Klingons with no excuse at all then why not let Jurati off
Spoilers Star Trek Picard Season 2 Hopes and Predictions
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Juratti is convicted of murder by telepathic coercion, (because the Maddox family are influential and insist on a trial) en route to the UFP treatment for the temporary insane colony she is kidnapped by persons unknown , Picard suspects Commander Oh might be involved and he persuades Starfleet to let him and his new crew look for her...result (of course Rios will be up for this because he's in looove)
Star Trek Picard - The search for Juratti...
Do we not get Picard II - The Wrath of Oh and then Picard III -The search for Juratti
I obviously don't know which direction the writers intend to take the story next, but I don't see why it should be about needing to stay together so much as wanting to stay together. If this group of people finds that they are happier travelling space as a group than they were in the situations they left behind, why shouldn't they stay together? They might all have different reasons for wanting to stay aboard, and they might all have different ideas about what should come next, but there's nothing wrong with that - makes for interesting dynamics and tensions.
I really, really can't imagine this crew ending up as TNG 2.0 aboard the Enterprise, though - that to me seems the unlikeliest outcome of all. I can't see any of the crew wanting it, either - I mean, Rios as navigator while Raffi is XO? That would be, like, two or three steps backward for Rios, he was already an XO before leaving Starfleet and now commands his own ship, he's not going to step down to a navigator role just to return to the organisation that burned him so badly, he likes his independence too much for that. And we could make similar arguments for most of the others, too.
I'm interested to see what the writers come up with for them, though.
Why wouldn't the Enterprise E still be in service? Is there any reason to believe that the ship wouldn't be refitted with top of the line tech? The original Enterprise lasted like 40 years.
Real world reasons. I doubt they’ll make a new CGI model of the Enterprise-E when they can make a new design for a new ship and then market the hell out of it.
"Jim, the Enterprise is over 20 years old. We feel her time is over."
Plenty of precedent for either side, but I doubt we will see the E.
Except that that line was dubious at best even in Search for Spock, as that would require the Enterprise to be new when Kirk took command (c 2265) and we have primary canon via Menagerie (and now Discovery) that it is at least a decade older, even if we disregard the missions of Robert April, which was permissable during the RW period as ST:TAS wasn't regarded as canon at the time (this has officially been reversed).
While I agree that the line itself was rather silly in context, it still confirms that Starfleet isn’t very concerned about the relative age or lifespan of a particular ship, and more interested in ‘the next big thing,’ (aka the Excelsior.) So at least during the TMP era, I doubt they would think twice about decommissioning ships even a decade or two old. And in the Enterprise’s case, it was already refitted once; they obviously had no interest in further upgrading the ship and more interest in building new ones.
Dubious line or not it establishes precedent within universe that they are not going to keep a space frame just because it is only X years old. In a post-scarcity environment that doesn't even surprise me.
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Its no surprise that some approaches to platform design would be more successful than others.
A lot also depends on the era they are from and what wars are waged during their service life.
The older classes are more likely to come up short in times of war or end up being used as cannon fodder to shield the newer and more advanced classes.
We know the Excelsior class was kept in service for a considerable time but that has a lot to do with what models were available to use when filming TNG and DS9 rather than the show runners intent to keep the class in use.
We may see an Enterprise but it may not be the E, there comes a point in every ships life when the overall damage sustained weakens the hull integrity past the point of repair, sooner or later it ends up becoming a game of spot the original hull plate that hasn't been repaired before, like in a car when the chassis is mostly rust and there is nothing solid to weld to or a ship/sub when you spend more time pumping out water than anything else.
Based on that I think its more likely we will see a new Enterprise rather than the E, I am hoping to see a proper high res model of the Odyssey class or something similar, something that truly convinces as a long range Explorer in an age of Transwarp and Quantum Slipstream drives.
Would be very helpful if the show runners could release some more information on the new ship classes we saw in the finale of S1, just to give us some idea of what to expect, it may be kept for S2 though.
From Chabons posts it seems the original plan to show us a Heavy Cruiser (I still don't think we actually saw the Zheng He itself), Explorer and Carrier Cruisers were dropped due to time constraints.
Except, that never happened. The Klingons would have went to war with the Federation whether Michael Burnham had been there or not. They were just looking for any excuse. They would have used someone looking at them wrong as an excuse to start a war. Hardly Burnham's falt.
No kidding. Amazing how that detail gets missed.
Also, it's not like Burnham was just exonerated without anything else happened. She was assigned to an experimental ship on the front lines of a war, without restoration of rank, and was constantly put in danger. It was only after she demonstrated personal growth to both Cornwell and Sarek that she is able to resume her duties.
Ok we get it. Man it's impossible to say anything about DIS round here
That's nonsense. However, it is possible to find fault in the show using things that actually, you know, happened.
Wait a second...one, we have a whole subforum dedicated to it. Two, there is a huge amount of events between "starts war, except really didn't" and " reinstated to full position."
But, we can discuss DSC if we want. But, there is no need to just shut down the conversation because we disagree.
If its not an Enterprise we know then ide rather they not bother. I have no interest in seeing the F just for th sake of having an Enterprise
It's time to move on from the Enterprise.
Yep it will only waste time that can be used for something that is relevent to the story. I was real happy to see Riker just show up on a random ship
Then you’ll be happy to know that Chabon doesn’t want to have the Enterprise shown either unless it’s for a very important reason. I’m fine with that.
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