I always liked the fabric, I assumed those panels were padded to minimize injuries to the crew when they got thrown into them during battle.
Donny's Refit Enterprise Interiors (Version 2.0)
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I'm not convinced they were all part of the crew before the emergency. After all, why would Captain Decker have simply inherited Kirk's crew? It's not like they were mere extensions of the ship. My impression was that much of the crew was assembled specifically for the V'Ger emergency and that Kirk requested as much of his old command crew as he could get.
All together now: Tuesday.
Well, 1) Star Trek. But otherwise 2) who have we got? Scott definitely was there. That leaves Uhura, Sulu, and Chekov, Chapel, and Rand. A big deal is made about people being rated on the new designs. Why would Chekov not be in the same boat as Kirk about the new weapons systems? Why wouldn't Sulu be leaving the parking brake on (again)? Didn't I read a book where there are characters complaining about McCoy taking Chapel's place even though she has more xeno-medical knowledge than he does?
As for being there at Kirk's request: He is on the Enterprise immediately following his meeting with Nogura. Certainly within the hour. Everyone else is on board and working.
He's a snappy dresser, but he's also got a wall sized IDIC made out of a Sparklett's Water sign.
And in the SLV and DE there's the Alien Ensign's exchange with Uhura about Kirk replacing Decker. You'd think that if Uhura, Sulu, Chekov, etc. hadn't been part of Decker's new crew all along, the ensign would have questioned their presence as well.
IIRC, in one of the original drafts of TMP, all the other characters (besides Spock, McCoy & Scotty) were captains of their own ships and were specifically brought back to serve TDY on the new Enterprise for the V'Ger mission, which would be why the alien crewman didn't question their own presence on the ship.
Shatner mentioned this on his live convention bit "Captain of the Starship" (1978). Very cool piece of early Trek history, which I highly recommend for anyone interested in what was going on at the time. I digitized it off the original vinyl several years ago - in which he talks about the early stages of Phase II/TMP production as it was under development.
Shatner mentioned this on his live convention bit "Captain of the Starship" (1978). Very cool piece of early Trek history, which I highly recommend for anyone interested in what was going on at the time. I digitized it off the original vinyl several years ago - in which he talks about the early stages of Phase II/TMP production as it was under development.
The designs may have been new to the Enterprise, but they could have already been in use on other ships of recent vintage. Kirk wasn't rated on new starship designs because he'd been Chief of Operations rather than serving on a starship, so he didn't need to be. Sulu and Chekov could've spent the 2.5-year downtime of the Enterprise serving on other ships and learning the new systems. I mean, it just doesn't make sense that they all just sat around for 18 months waiting for the ship to be ready.
Yes, and I wrote it. It's clear from the film that Chapel was going to be the CMO and that Scotty was chief engineer. As for the others, I had this to say (p. 65):
That last was an homage to Nichelle Nichols's work with NASA recruiting diverse astronaut candidates.
Not necessarily, because I'm assuming the ship wasn't fully staffed yet, or that the people who were alloted for certain positions weren't available in time. So Sulu and Chekov wouldn't have been replacing anyone else or shoving them out of a position they'd earned.
It made sense to me for the crew lounges to be accessible to the construction teams for their time off while the ship was being fitted.
I do like this idea because the TOS command crew seems unusual in the grouping together of so many senior-rank officers that, other under circumstances, should have split to go get their own commands as Sulu had. McCoy even points this out in the autobiography of James Kirk. If they had their own commands and got pulled back to TMP it suggests, had V'ger not happened, they would have had more normal career tracks.
(As an aside Christopher I am intrigued for a tale or two on Will Decker's Enterprise if the ship was allowed to be fitted out and launched as intended. I'm a fan of what-if stories and I liked where you were going in Ex Machina).
If the Navy is any guide, the crew was not sitting around. Do you think that a ship that pulls into drydock is just handed over to the shipyard and the crew goes on leave? Nope, they will busting their butts along side the shipyard workers and doing QA at the end.
Been there, done that, used to have the T-shirt.
That's what I was walking up to, but my volunteer crew experience wasn't exactly analogous to a present-day equivalent of a front-line starship, so I didn't want to get too strident assuming that the regular crew wasn't cleared from the ship and all the work was done by yard specialists.
I haven’t seen this in any of the TMP drafts I’ve got from 1977-1978. Even as far back as The God Thing, everyone was depicted as having been promoted after the 5Y mission, but none are captains.
Yep! And more plants to each side
I agree on some points, especially that there needs to be more contrast between the grey carpet and the blue of the chairs. I tried doing cream-colored chairs but that just didn't work. So I've darkened the blue of the chairs instead, as well as raising the saturation slightly. I like the results:
as opposed to before:
As far as brightness goes, I'm leaving the pit area dark while leaving the forward lounge area bright, as opposed to my 2015 attempt where I had the light pretty much equalized once the viewscreen walls dropped down. And I like my TWOK lounge being darker/moodier than the TMP version. But I dunno. I tweak lighting all the time while I go along in my work so who knows how I'll have it end up by the time it's done.
Hmmm... did you ever consider adding orange shag carpet for the TWOK lounge, since meyer did add orange shag to Kirk and Spock's quarters for that movie
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Just repeating what Shatner said in that monologue back in '78. No idea what the timeframe was for the actual content. He may have misremembered, or simply regurgitating a brief musing of Roddenberry's when they first met about it during the initial writing process. Shatner's retelling of the account was a bit... stylized and poetic, as he is often wont to do.
That's shag? Dear God, the static it must generate!
Methinks its either shag or some kind of deep pile velour.
One draft I read (I think it's on the Phase II book) mentioned reassembling Kirk’s command crew. But that was when they were going to him.
In TMP not only does Kirk "use this emergency" but according to Roddenberry's novel Nogura actively tries to shuffle Kirk away from it. Certainly not a scenario where Nogura is assembling Kirk's old crew in preparation.
In TMP not only does Kirk "use this emergency" but according to Roddenberry's novel Nogura actively tries to shuffle Kirk away from it. Certainly not a scenario where Nogura is assembling Kirk's old crew in preparation.
I doubt it's shag, but I will see how the TWOK lounge looks with orange carpeting, but I’m not sure it will work with the rest of the color scheme. Hmm.
Spent my lunch break dialing in the lighting of the TMP observation lounge to be more dramatic and thus in line with the miniature shot we see in the movie:
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Not to sound rude at all; by I meant orange shag in the TWOK lounge, it would probably contrast petty good with the blue seating IMHO. Your TMP lounge looks perfect in my opinion BTW.I doubt it's shag, but I will see how the TWOK lounge looks with orange carpeting, but I’m not sure it will work with the rest of the color scheme. Hmm.
Spent my lunch break dialing in the lighting of the TMP observation lounge to be more dramatic and thus in line with the miniature shot we see in the movie:
That's assuming it's about Kirk. It doesn't have to be. As I said in the book, Sulu and Chekov were both keeping themselves available because they hoped to get assigned back to the Enterprise when it was ready, so that meant they were on hand, plus they had a lot of experience. And there's logic in reassembling a command crew that's known to work well together even if its captain and first officer are no longer part of it -- especially if the new captain was the old captain's own hand-picked replacement, up until he got greedy and kicked him out again. (The "Practical Joker" entity was right! Kirk is a jerk!)
Also how do your think the TWOK lounge would look with dark Walnut wall paneling instead of Rosewood?
I misread your message, and changed my original quote. Sorry about that!
I'm pretty set on the rosewood but can easily tweak it to see how it looks
