I thought so too, but Chabon pointed out why would Lore need to build a new android body for himself?
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x10 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2"
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With the CBS/Paramount merger thing, there wouldn't be any licensing issues for the Sovereign, Intrepid and Galaxy, right? The Odyssey might be an issue because its a design from the video games?They all looked the same to me.
But I guess I am a little disappointed that they did not throw in a recognizable class like a Sovereign, Odyssey, Intrepid, or Galaxy class. They were clearly going for fan service, why not go the extra mile and give us some fan favorite designs?
Where did you get that idea from?
There were no rights issues before the merger. CBS owned everything.
Other body was damaged? I’m sure it could be easily explained.
And Backup Data referred to him as his brother meaning he was aware of him and absolutely would have warned Picard if he was Lore. Nothing in his actions were Lore-like.
Because 200 Romulan ships would make that an extremely costly arrest.
Also treason, the whole infiltrating-starfleet thing...
But arrest and trials are just so thirty years ago!
From the two Talshiar doing manual labor for Picard on Earth.
But the katra is essentially the Vulcan Spirit. We can look at it as a Vulcanian being comprised of three aspects. Body, mind, and katra. Spock moved his katra into McCoy. So the Spock sitting there was just the body and mind, but not the katra. Then after being rejuvinated on Genesis and the katra transferred back into his body he was now the same body and katra but not the same mind. And we see this in the end and during STIIII while Spock is recuperating and basically reassembling the mind aspect.
Picard on the other hand is more of a copy and paste situation. It would be more analogous to Commander Riker and Thomas Riker, only if Thomas Riker has been put in an android body. They are clearly different people. Picard and iPicard may share the same memories, but they aren't the same person.
Indeed. It always amazes me how one form of science fiction magic is OK but another is not...
They were doing that because they wanted to. They wanted to work for Picard.
Indeed. It always amazes me how one form of science fiction magic is OK but another is not...
The issue isn't that its not ok. The issue is that logically it's not what the series says it is. Sure a fake synth version of Picard is believable in the realm of Star Trek. But it's not the original Picard, so they shouldn't pretend like it is. Recognize that iPicard their pet vanity Picard that they built becasue they couldn't stand that the original Picard died, and move on. But don't insult my intelligence by pretending he's the same thing.
You know what's weird? That Picard saved the day by making another Big Inspiring Speech, even though nothing had changed from all the other times this season where he made Big Inspiring Speeches that backfired. It just....worked this time, because we ran out of episodes and it had to. He didn't learn anything or modify his approach. I guess the lession here is just keep doing what you do because eventually it will work?
Disappointed we didn't get a scene between Soji and Narek to end the episode. I suppose he's going to figure in at some point next season, maybe seeking some kind of twisted revenge for his sister's death.
I loved parts of this episode. Don't know quite what to think about synth Picard right now though.
I loved parts of this episode. Don't know quite what to think about synth Picard right now though.
He is the real Picard in all the ways that it matters.
His memories, and his personality are all there. He IS Picard.
He put his life on the line to make his point. Deeds, not words.
Because you assume that one is okay and the other is not to the person making the complaint. Maybe both are dumb. Spock's rebirth was equally silly and full of coincidence, for instance having the planet age him to right where he was before. But what’s a killer about Picard's rebirth is not the mind swap. They did that in Schizoid Man. I do accept that. But giving a 93 year old the only body developed and make it decrepit and only last a few years. It's not even magic. That's just bad decision making. And Picard may not have accepted rebirth. He didn't approve of what Ira Graves did. Why would he want it for himself? If there's a theme running through Trek, whether it's What are Little Girls Made Of or I, Mudd, or Return to Tomorrow its that putting people in robot bodies is a cheat.Indeed. It always amazes me how one form of science fiction magic is OK but another is not...
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This is a completely different situation. For one Picard isn't replacing/swapping an existing consciousness, the body was empty. Graves replaced Data, a sentient being, Picard's friend.
But he also lost some of his humanity. That was as big a point and argument to leave the body. Same with Roger Korbey.
