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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x09 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1"

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You're getting really good at these nonreply posts. It might have even been worth it to just not bother replying since you "don't care"?
It's a talent I have.

Also, I am trying to sort out were your comment about Captain America came from my comment about fan expectations not influencing story decisions. So, I am vastly confused at the apparent non sequitur.
 
It's a talent I have.

Also, I am trying to sort out were your comment about Captain America came from my comment about fan expectations not influencing story decisions. So, I am vastly confused at the apparent non sequitur.
I mean I think there are definitely cases in larger franchises where a writer or producer is giving fans what they want. I do think there is a degree of fan service. Big space battle next week is fan/general audience service.
 
I mean I think there are definitely cases in larger franchises where a writer or producer is giving fans what they want. I do think there is a degree of fan service. Big space battle next week is fan/general audience service.
Yes, but they are giving them what they want in the context of the larger story that they ultimately want to tell. They are not mutually exclusive, but hanging your entertainment and storytelling choices upon the whims of fans is risky at best, and stupid at worst.
 
Just returned from this episode. The return of Spot II was the highlight. Agnes was surprisingly the best character in this episode. Didn't like the Soji Android clone with the green eyes. Even Narek was better integrated in this episode. Soong was a weird customer - but at the same time hilarious and Raffi, Elnor, Seven and Rios didn't have much input here.
 
Did not Hugh hatch the plan to reactivate the cube? What do you think was going to happen, a dance party?

He wanted to get the cube under his control. How exactly and if that involves killing all the Romulans he didn't say and we didn't see because he was killed before it. He might have just planned to push down walls to imprison them and keeping them from moving. Maybe release a sleeping gas to knock them out.

And either way even if he planned to kill all the Romulans who had no problems with killing all the xB and Borg drones, I think Picard should have still simply said that he regrets his death instead going on a diatribe about how it is sad that he turned to violence. He doesn't seem to have a problem with Elnor and Seven killing tons of Romulans. No regrets whatsoever there though I think he should feel bad in regards to Elnor. Killing bad guys is seemingly not something he has a general problem with. So why choose those words as a eulogy for Hugh? He deserves better after he rescued him and Soji and had to watch Romulans kill other xBs because they wanted Picard's and Soji's location.
 
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I'm rolling with Balamas and others theory he's actually Lore (in some form), he definitely reads more like Lore, could be unlikely, but at least that's the outcome I want to see.
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And on board the V'ger call back.
 
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I think this is all leading back to the artificial life referenced in the original movie. I'm just waiting for V'ger to pop in.
 
It's a talent I have.

Also, I am trying to sort out were your comment about Captain America came from my comment about fan expectations not influencing story decisions. So, I am vastly confused at the apparent non sequitur.
And the fact that Cap does, I believe, pick up the hammer in the comics, so it's not solely based on what fans wanted.
 
Yup. Kurtzman is ruining Trek again.

Also, this episode was the best/worst/biggest disappointment ever.
Intersting when someone dislikes an episode it's:
"Yup. Kurtzman is ruining Trek again..."

But when they like it:
"Chabon IS AMAZING!!!"

Here's the issue with that Michael Chabon IS THE SHOWRUNNER <--- He says what goes in the series this season.

Second, Patrick Stewart had a great deal of input front to back for everything in this season.

BTW - The Writing credits for Ep. 9:
Teleplay: Michael Chabon & Aeylet Waldman
Story by: Michael Chabon & Aeylet Waldman & Akiva Goldsman

Alex Kurtzman is nowhere on the writing credits, so you can't blame Kurtzman for this one.
 
I am sorry, I couldn’t help but laugh at the thought of Picard season 2 to be Brent Spiner doing impersonations of Patrick Stewart as Picard (He was great doing that at cons) Season 2 will die in an artificial heart beat!
^^^
I on the other hand would LOVE IT were this the actual case for S2.
 
I'm rolling with Balamas and others theory he's actually Lore, he definitely reads more like Lore, could be unlikely, but at least that's the outcome I want to see.
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Alas, Chabon has said he is Soong's biological son, and the Lore's story is not being told here since it has been thoroughly told, in his opinion. That pretty much rules this theory out (which I favored as well). However, I could easily see how Lore could have been based on A.I.'s mental engrams, and thus Lore inherited his daddy issues.
 
Sutra was badass, more interesting than Soji.

Nice to see a Soong descendant, just to get Spiner back.
 
Intersting when someone dislikes an episode it's:
"Yup. Kurtzman is ruining Trek again..."

But when they like it:
"Chabon IS AMAZING!!!"

Here's the issue with that Michael Chabon IS THE SHOWRUNNER <--- He says what goes in the series this season.

Second, Patrick Stewart had a great deal of input front to back for everything in this season.

BTW - The Writing credits for Ep. 9:
Teleplay: Michael Chabon & Aeylet Waldman
Story by: Michael Chabon & Aeylet Waldman & Akiva Goldsman

Alex Kurtzman is nowhere on the writing credits, so you can't blame Kurtzman for this one.
Kurtzman is overseeing the whole franchise, so I doubt he has much input beyond possibly helping develop the initial stories. The only Picard episode he has a credit for is the first episode, which lines up with how this kind of thing usually seems to work. The person in charge of the franchise helps develop the story, usually writes or co-writes the pilot, and then hands it off to a show-runner, who takes over from there. That's pretty much what happened with Greg Berlanti in the Arrowverse. With The Flash, Supergirl and Legends of Tomorrow, he has only one or two writer credits, and a handful of story by credits in just the first one or two seasons.
 
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