Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

[DaveyNY]

Plausible explanation but I wonder how she would pass any exams about Soong's work (which undoubtedly would be included within the curriculums she would encounter leading up to Daystrom). . It would be like trying to get an astrophysics degree without studying Einstein .

How do you study somebody's work who never published any papers and went into hiding/seclusion for decades?
And even then only put his actual physical results (Lore, Data & Juliana O'Donnell) out there for the world to see, not study.
Even Maddox was basing all his work on what he was able to glean from Data, B4 and possibly Lore.

There was nothing left to study at Soong's Lab, Lore made sure of that after killing Dr. Soong.

 

[Noname Given]

How can Dahj get into the Daystrom Institute for artificial intelligence and yet she never heard of thee Lt. Commander Data, the only sentient life form known throughout the Federation, Klingon Empire and the Romulan Empire?

At the time she was applying there was a band on development of any future Android or Synthetic intelligence. Also the Daystrom Institute was studying a variety of technologies.

 

[trekfan_1]

How do you study somebody's work who never published any papers and went into hiding/seclusion for decades?
And even then only put his actual physical results (Lore, Data & Juliana O'Donnell) out there for the world to see, not study.
Even Maddox was basing all his work on what he was able to glean from Data, B4 and possibly Lore.

I think Data would be well known just from sheer reputation among cybernetics circles. Also, Data's schematics was easily available to Riker. Maddox had published papers before meeting Data. Undoubtedly Soong's work (along with Data's schematics)would be mentioned in his papers. No way Soong's work is not studied in cybernetics circles. The person who had the breakthrough in creating the first stable positronic brain not studied? Not likely

 

[Thomas Elliot]

Plus, wasn't Data in communication with Maddox. It was referenced that he was in "Data's Day." And they still had the parts from B4 apparently. So all that stuff would have been looked over.
But yeah, reputation alone would have been enough. Even if Dr. Soong's work wasn't mentioned whatseover, which would be hard to believe, I'm sure him creating the one sentient android who just happened to serve in Starfleet would be mentioned quite significantly, and something they're all aspiring to.

 

[fireproof78]

At the time she was applying there was a band on development of any future Android or Synthetic intelligence. Also the Daystrom Institute was studying a variety of technologies.

Mostly had to program an AI without it going insane.

 

[trekfan_1]

At the time she was applying there was a band on development of any future Android or Synthetic intelligence. Also the Daystrom Institute was studying a variety of technologies.

That's like saying people who lived and went to school during prohibition , cant be taught/ find out how liquor was made. Even though there was a ban on synthetics, its history and prior research (in a basic sense) would still be known within cybernetics/AI circles. Especially the breakthrough on creating a positronic brain

 

[NCC-73515]

Plausible explanation but I wonder how she would pass any exams about Soong's work (which undoubtedly would be included within the curriculums she would encounter leading up to Daystrom). . It would be like trying to get an astrophysics degree without studying Einstein .

She probably didn't even go to school or get any degree in those 3 years.

 

[SolarisOne]

She probably didn't even go to school or get any degree in those 3 years.

Why would she even need to?

 

[Turtletrekker]

Why would she even need to?

Even Data went to the Academy.

 

[cooleddie74]

Although to be fair Data didn't have his positronic brain filled with fake memories to give him the lie that he'd lived about 20 years of a life prior to attending Starfleet Academy. I could see Dahj and Soji being programmed to believe they'd attended schools and been awarded degrees and all the knowledge was already in their nets.

 

[Thomas Elliot]

So did she just meet her boyfriend a few days before he was killed? Just got the apartment? It seems like she had had some interactions with people prior to this.
What happened if the Zhat Vash never tried to kill her? She was going to go to the Daystrom Institute and when people brought up Data would she just fall asleep in front of them? Would she be "Data? Who's that?"
"Dahj, how did you get accepted into the Daystrom Institute and you never heard of Lt. Commander Data, the only sentient android to serve in Starfleet and let us know that sentient AI was possible?"

 

[Cyrus]

I really don't like the fact that he's leaving but with any luck it'll be a Manny Coto situation wherein somebody who understands the franchise well enough to come in and take over without any decline in quality is the person we get.

The new showrunner is supposed to be Terry Matalas, who got story credit on 2 ENT episodes (Impulse, Stratagem), so he did work with Coto.

 

[SolarisOne]

Although to be fair Data didn't have his positronic brain filled with fake memories to give him the lie that he'd lived about 20 years of a life prior to attending Starfleet Academy. I could see Dahj and Soji being programmed to believe they'd attended schools and been awarded degrees and all the knowledge was already in their nets.

Someone gets it. Besides the memories of the colonists, Data was a blank slate when he was discovered. Dajh and Soji were anything but blank slates.

 

[Cyrus]

Seems like they are not going to address whether Data's neurons were used to create Soji and Dahj. And if so where they came from.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

My anticipation for the finale has been severely diminished by the quality of the penultimate episode.

 

[LimonaM]

Hmmm, i hope the Romulans did use all those ships (as shown in the episode 10 preview) for the evacuation of their planet.

 

[1001001]

 

[Dukhat]

Hmmm, i hope the Romulans did use all those ships (as shown in the episode 10 preview) for the evacuation of their planet.

My impression is that those are Tal Shiar ships (just like how Section 31 has their own ships in DSC), so the only Romulans those ships saved were Tal Shiar operatives.

Of course, we have yet to see the scene in the first trailer of a fleet of these Romulan ships flying toward a pristine Mars, so who knows.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

That tool some android gave to Raffi, that is to be used with "your imagination"... maybe that will be used to fix Picard?

 

[IMC Headquarters]

That tool some android gave to Raffi, that is to be used with "your imagination"... maybe that will be used to fix Picard?

It'll fix him a decent cup of hot Earl Grey, at least.