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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x09 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1"

Rate Star Trek: Picard 1x09 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1"


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I took it to mean Soji and Dahj were more advanced models designed for stealth operations. They obviously failed since the Romulans detected them easily enough. Something they haven’t addressed yet.
 
Not my favorite episode but it’s obviously building to something. Opinion might change after part 2. I think it’s hard to actually rate this one until you see the whole thing. I’m going to therefore wait to vote until after next week.

Exact same for me........

Btw., that last shot, when they show Rizzo on the bridge, then zoom out, was very Babylon 5.

Damn thought that was Oh! Gotta watch on a bigger screen!
 
I assume their skin color is their choice. These Android don't live on a human planet and are not trying to pass as humans.
I guess that explains how the android died when Sutra stabbed her eye. They are all like Dahj, but choose to look like Data
 
I can't wait to see a Klingon Ork WAAAGH appear in the middle of this battle between the Romulans Dark Eldar, Federation Space Marines, Androids Necrons and this emerging synthetic god being Chaos God, while Picard and his Rogue Traders are caught in the middle.
Are the Borg the Death Guard? Or might the Vidiians be a better analogue?
 
Someone already gave this episode a 1. Confirms what I have suspected about people giving a 1 to basically each of the previous episodes.... they would have given a 1 regardless of anything… this proves it.
Not surprising someone would do that, given how episodes 1 - 8 were terrible in my view. STP has somehow been even worse than 2 seasons of STD and 2 seasons of Short Treks combined.

Episode 9 itself has got a(nother) great example with the giant orchids, that fly from a planet's surface, reach escape velocity, get to the cold, harmful void of space and then are somehow directed towards starships like some type of weapon while making monster sounds.......

If someone had told me this before I'd seen the episode, I wouldn't have believed it and despite having seen it, I still can't believe someone wrote this and it went into production without ANYONE involved with the production giving critical notes. But then again, these are the same people who thought it wise to add double-penised KlingOrcs and Tribble breakfast cereal commercials to Star Trek.

This is the absolute nadir of Alex Kurtzman's neverending trash-o-rama. It just keeps piling it on and on and on and on. It's incomprehensible that nonsense like STP has people gushing over it like it has any value to it.
 
The Golem, as well as the reference to Hoffmann's Sandman (Coppelius),was also a weird reference to drop in. Not every story about artificial life needs to be brought up, and hopefully, some of them carry more meaning that what we have seen so far.
 
And the more primitive synth with the TOS command logo was a 23rd century starfleet android? And the one with biological looking skin but that same TOS logo in her eyes? That was very odd...
 
And the more primitive synth with the TOS command logo was a 23rd century starfleet android? And the one with biological looking skin but that same TOS logo in her eyes? That was very odd...
This may be another instance in which the person receiving the vision is putting their own interpretation, their own experiences into the vision.
 
I'm still a little confused about the adminition

The message of the Admonition was (paraphrasing): "Organic life evolves. Inevitably, they will create synthetic life in their pursuit of perfection. Inevitably, that synthetic life will become smarter, stronger and live longer than the organic life that created them. This will cause the organic life to feel threatened by the synthetic life. That fear will cause the organic life to try to destroy the synthetic life. But don't worry: when you get to that point that organic life tries to destroy you, here's a frequency you can use to contact a great alliance of synthetic life that spans several galaxies. That alliance will come and protect synthetic life by wiping out all the organic life."

What is interesting is how each side interpreted the message differently. The Romulans focused on the threat from this alliance of synthetic that have to power to destroy all organic life. They saw that as a the threat that needed to be stopped. And the Romulans reasoned that if they can destroy all synthetic life before they have a chance to contact this alliance, then they will be safe from the alliance coming and wiping them out.

The synthetics see the Admonition as a message of hope: there is an alliance of powerful synthetics that can protect you from organics that hate you.

But like a lot of prophecies, they tend to be self-fulling. By trying to destroy the synths, they are proving the admonition true. Organics will feel threatened and try to destroy you. And by trying to destroy the synths, it will cause them to summon this alliance, causing the very apocalypse that the Romulans are trying to prevent. The best way to prevent the Apocalypse would be to leave the synths alone in peace. Then they would have no reason to contact the alliance of synths.
 
For some reason New Trek isn't nailing their season long storylines. It's really weird, since so many other shows out there can have amazing episodes, with mysteries, and season long archs, but every episode you learn something new or achieve something in that's satisfying. That's been so rare in Picard and DIscovery, where they hang so much on where the end of the season is going. And for some reason it's very hard for stuff to hold up to scrutiny and serious thought on why x or y is happening or has happened.

Smaller is often better, but they always go for the biggest, most overblown end of days endgame to fight against. I hope they limit the scope of their stories next season. These continual galaxy ending plotlines are tough to get behind. I think most people can predict 90% of what's going to happen in part II.
Season long story lines worked the best in Trek when you have more than 10 episodes. That gives you room to tell a story away from the main arc but still connected to it. DS9 did it best in my opinion. In the case of Discovery and Picard everything is connected to the arc. I guess this is what they think viewers want. :shrug:
 
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