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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x09 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1"

Rate Star Trek: Picard 1x09 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1"


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This may be the weakest episode of the season for me.

Obviously Sutra was evil. Her being telepathic is dubious, but, meh. And her name....? Okay, we get it, she's supposed to be sexy and mysterious, only there's no mystery to her obvious evil, and little sexiness to her cheesy makeup.

How is the Admonition misunderstood by biologicals? If it's not meant for them, why do they experience it at all, but since they do, why do they do so in the exact way to defeat its purpose of helping artificial life?

The androids looked awful. Their needless coloring...I mean, hi, Soji's perfectly human inside and out. The paint, the muscle-clad dudes, and airhead dudettes were laughable. Their society was laughable.

An exact copy of Soong is his son? That's ENT-level bad. The Soongs have been reproducing via mitosis it seems from at least Arik Soong of the 22nd Century onward. It was great to be so surprised by Spiner's appearance, and it was kinda surreal to see his face and Stewart's as adversaries when Jr. dispels the androids from trusting Picard's ability to persuade the Federation, but I kind of don't care about the son's storyline (which may be fairly predictable), and that's a problem.

Rios has a one-night stand with Jurati and now they're Dawson and Joey in love?

The Borg cube should have nuked the dessert with its impact. Why weren't our heroes surprised by how little damage it did if they were sure everyone onboard was dead?

Really disappointing, given the build-up. This is where the season goes?

The threats and politics of the situation among the androids fell flat for me. Some good acting moments and interesting questions raised, role reversals, but the situations didn't play out sophisticated enough... I'll rewatch and comment later. This was key, but I'm going to bed.

Hope it ends well enough at least next week and Intergalactic Control isn't too Matrix-y evil. That's probably the baddie next season...
 
Not psychic transmissions. The synthetics have to ask for help via ordinary subspace radio. The amusing thing is that the only reason the synths know how to contact the higher civilization is that Oh mind-melded with Jurati, so Oh caused the problem she was trying to stop.

That's what I mean. Millenia of psychic transmission is how it gets to them. Is this for real? Who came up with this insane plot, Rian Johnson?
 
Obviously Sutra was evil. Her being telepathic is dubious, but, meh. And her name....? Okay, we get it, she's supposed to be sexy and mysterious, only there's no mystery to her obvious evil, and little sexiness to her cheesy makeup.

Is she actually evil? She's ruthless, yeah , but is she wrong?

How is the Admonition misunderstood by biologicals? If it's not meant for them, why do they experience it at all, but since they do, why do they do so in the exact way to defeat its purpose of helping artificial life?

It's not like they misunderstood the message completely. Most of what Oh, Jurati, etc. took away was accurate.

An exact copy of Soong is his son? That's ENT-level bad. The Soongs have been reproducing via mitosis it seems from at least Arik Soong of the 22nd Century onward. It was great to be so surprised by Spiner's appearance, and it was kinda surreal to see his face and Stewart's as adversaries when Jr. dispels the androids from trusting Picard's ability to persuade the Federation, but I kind of don't care about the son's storyline (which may be fairly predictable), and that's a problem.

That's always a problem with Trek. Do you adhere to dopey precedent, or defy it? Either approach has costs.

Rios has a one-night stand with Jurati and now they're Dawson and Joey in love?.

I bought this based on IRL experience., Sometimes, it's just there. But YMMV.
 
That's what I mean. Millenia of psychic transmission is how it gets to them. Is this for real? Who came up with this insane plot, Rian Johnson?

I'm not sure where you're going with that. The world sits there, marked by the stars. You find it, you get the transmission. The synths didn't find it, but the Romulans did. The transmission being psychic isn't all that important.
 
We arent even getting into the silly coloration of the synths, the ease of accepting mass genocide as a solution, how no one asks if they did in fact attack Mars or how every member of the Soong family reproduces by budding an exact copy of themselves, or the giant sucking Flower ships,etc. Whoa! What kind of crack was Chabon smoking?
 
I'm not sure were you're going with that. The world sits there, marked by the stars. You find it, you get the transmission., The synths didn't find it, but the Romulans did.

I am going with it being an amazingly dumb idea. They are all supposed to find this one system, and stumble across a message? What about synths in the Delta Quadrant or Gamma Quadrant? They could spend centuries living 10,000s of light years from the system where they implanted a secret message? Is that a joke?

If they are still around and they are this uber, why not just make contact directly with any synths that arise? Instead they live in another dimension and wait for them to accidently stumble across this message, even knowing that biologics could find it also?
 
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This may be the weakest episode of the season for me.

Obviously Sutra was evil. Her being telepathic is dubious, but, meh. And her name....? Okay, we get it, she's supposed to be sexy and mysterious,
Obviously, you don't get it.

A sutra is an aphorism. She literally took the message of a "god" and translated it so people could understand what it meant.
 
I am going with it being an amazingly dumb idea.

Meaning that it's a bad idea to put the message out there in a format that the opposition can read? Yeah, I see it. My take is that they underestimated organics' capabilities, but it's not a great plan.
 
I'm not going to get too hung up over the Soong family of clones. If having every Soong look alike keeps Spiner in the picture, I'll overlook it.

And when you factor in Kestra Riker--who looks literally nothing like how a child is Frakes and Sirtis would look--it all balances out.
Soong's descendents being clones of the original Soong, just as a excuse to keep Brent Spiner acting as he ages. I'm ok with that. And it makes sense given Arik Soong's Semi-Heel-ish status.

Kestra Riker looking nothing like Frakes & Sirtis (Obviously she's just some random actor they picked, no real blood relation). But that can be explained by recessive genes coming out from both parents. But even then it's not that big of a deal.
 
She’s probably upset that they killed her sister and wants revenge. Completely original idea.
 
Meaning that it's a bad idea to put the message out there in a format that the opposition can read? Yeah, I see it. My take is that they underestimated organics' capabilities, but it's not a great plan.

That's part of what is dumb about it. Anyone could stumble across it. And billions of synths that live in other quadrants of the Galaxy may never find this system or spend millenia living 10,000s of light years away and never find it. Why dont they just use their intergalactic uber tech to note the emergence of synths in advanced societies and contact them directly? Nevermind the casual acceptance of genocidal war as the only answer. As on Orville, Soji/Isaac will predictably rebel against the Skynet/Kaylon plot.
 
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