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Spoilers Episode 7 "Nepenthe"

Rate 1x07 Nepenthe

  • 10 - Wild Beard Riker

    Votes: 110 36.9%
  • 9

    Votes: 95 31.9%
  • 8

    Votes: 53 17.8%
  • 7

    Votes: 22 7.4%
  • 6

    Votes: 7 2.3%
  • 5 - Full Beard Riker

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • 4

    Votes: 4 1.3%
  • 3

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • 2

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • 1 - Season 1 Riker

    Votes: 3 1.0%

  • Total voters
    298
I think the best thing about this episode was the characterization of the Rikers. Deanna acted and sounded like Deanna, not like she was in the movies (and it was amazing hearing her call Picard on his bullcrap; she was exactly right), and Picard and Riker's friendship and chemistry was so nice. Also, Kestra could've been annoying but I liked her a lot.
 
Some sausages are aged, but there are also many types that are just chopped/diced fresh meat of some kind, with the appropriate herbs & spices added and then packed into a edible casing and cooked.
:techman:

Still, the way the shot was edited it did look like Riker was using raw bunnicorn meat directly off the carcass which doesn't make any sense. He'd need time to pack/cook the sausage first.
 
Still, the way the shot was edited it did look like Riker was using raw bunnicorn meat directly off the carcass which doesn't make any sense. He'd need time to pack/cook the sausage first.
Making sausage at home is one of those lost arts that really is not so difficult as it sounds.
At its core, a sausage is simply ground meat and fat, salt, and flavorings/spices.
It really is not much more involved than grinding your preferred meat, you don’t even have to stuff it into links if you don’t want to.
 
Sounds like this really was Hugh's last hurrah. The character's return and Del Arco's performance has been a major highlight of the series for me, so I'm a bit disappointed, but I'm glad we got to catch up with him and it was worth it for those reunion scenes with Picard.

https://www.startrek.com/videos/watch-jonathan-del-arco-shares-a-message-with-fans

Did DelArco actually call PICARD dystopian? The modern trek production team/actors have always tried to push that it really isnt so it's interesting that he said this. I fear the hate channels may have a field day with this.
 
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Now this could probably (and most likely) mean nothing but the Trivia section of this week's Ready Room episode called the Titan a Luna Class Starship.

It could easily just be the writers of 'Ready Room' googling the ship name and getting Memory-Beta answer. But who knows.
 
The more I kept watching this one, the more I loved it, and ultimately I'm giving it a ten for the beautiful revisit of Picard's relationship to the Rikers and the portrayal of Soji rebuilding herself with Kestra's help. Kestra's innocent curiosity at Soji reminded me of how Bashir was interested in Data's human qualities without any prejudice... she's a Star Trek kid, through and through. And I saw much of both Will and Deanna in her. Not to mention her wonderful bit of child logic with "And because you're three years old, so I get to be the boss of you."

I'll have to admit, I felt Deanna was the stronger of the two; Will was at his friendliest and his most relaxed, but Deanna was finally utilized in the best way I could've imagined, allowed to be the counselor Picard had always needed. She started strong, with how she casually scanned Picard and Soji, and immediately pieced together why they had come here, without even being a full telepath. But then again, Will was no slouch either, even if his deduction scene reminded me a bit of Beyond Belief... I almost expected him to ask Picard if he'd ever written his initials in wet cement or if he remembered the tallest man he'd ever seen :lol:. But his snide remark that Picard being stuck with a headstrong teenager was basically penance for his sheer fucking hubrisTM was absolutely spot-on.

But to return to Deanna, she gave a beautiful assessment of why Picard is the way he is, and I absolutely loved her reasoning that Picard needed to let other people help him. Without his crew, Picard grew rigid, inflexible and arrogant, certain that he alone could solve things, and if there are no people around him to temper his arrogance, he's dangerously error-prone, be it a constant stream of social faux-pas (like thinking a playful jab at Soji would help when she broke down), or unthinking mistakes like showing all his cards to Clancy or blindly trusting Jurati, which Raffi had even pointed out. I know that Myers-Briggs Type Indicators are pseudoscientific, but after thinking about it with keeping the reality check given to him by the Rikers in mind, I think this series is the most INTJ we have ever seen Picard. TNG was a healthy manifestation of that personality type, and PIC is the textbook unhealthy one, best seen in how he stopped thinking things through and just acted on what he felt to be true or false at first sight. I know the feeling exactly, because I'm an INTJ and I'm making all the same mistakes whenever I go complacent. And like many other INTJs, Picard needed a reality check from the right place, because not everyone could get through to him on an emotional level.

So, pseudoscience aside, Picard needed to meet the Rikers, and even he realized this, as he admitted to Will at the lake. At the end, he seemed as if the weight of his failures had finally been lifted from his shoulders. As for the La Sirena plot, Jurati falling apart at the seams was quite hard to watch, and the truth finally sort-of came out, even though it was disturbed by a few contrived coincidences like Narek always showing up whenever the others would start suspecting her. Even though, I liked her decision to just go along with whatever false conclusions Rios and Raffi had come at.

Regarding the Artifact, I was sad to see Hugh go, but I was pleased that he had a poignant send-off offering the xB-s as a lost cause for Elnor. I keep loving to hate Narissa with her smug taunts, and how effortlessly she distracted Elnor so that she could kill Hugh and even beamed out a split second before her own blade got her. That seals it, I'm calling her Space Azula from now on.

Random stream-of-consciousness observations because I love those:
  • Where do Oh's visions come from? Maybe they've been passed among members of the Zhat Vash for generations?
  • Kestra and Thad, with their twelve invented languages and imaginary world, remind me of a young J.R.R. Tolkien a lot. Ardani even sounds much like Arda and Viveen reminded me of Sindarin.
  • I love the bunnicorns, oh my god. Not to mention that gormagander reference.
  • The "close channel" sound of the La Sirena commbadges is still a mix of the Bajoran commbadge chirp and the Enterprise-D "close channel" sound, if anyone's interested.
 
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There's no life support going to be available when the people doing the hacking don't give a fig about their victims to being with.
Seven's ship was pretty much a one person affair and I doubt she could have gotten Icheb anywhere fast enough to save him.
They were on a backwater planet just about in the middle of nowhere.
Also, I like bologna.
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Need I remind you that Seven was able to revive Neelix after he's been dead for nearly a day? And that was many years before, one would think she'd have perfected the technique by then...

FYI: Baloney and bologna are two very different things.
 
I'm hoping now Agnes gets thrown into Rura Penthe for life or something. Unless they can prove the mind meld was mind control, she's getting far more sympathetic treatment than say, Barclay, despite the fact that she's a murderer. Probably because the character looks cute. Keep in mind her actions didn't just directly kill Maddox, but also led to the deaths of Hugh and all the other ex-Borgs (Rizzo wouldn't have killed Hugh if Agnes refused to take the tracker).
 
I liked that the episode allowed some breathing room for the characters and mostly was of a slower pace.

Frakes and especially the generally underrated Sirtis were awesome. Loved Troi calling out Picard. Liked the whole planetside @ Troi/Riker's part. Hope they all survive.

mind rape eh, mind meld with DISCO imagery sprinkled in... either is CGI reuse for costs or Dicovery/Control related...
I don't have high hopes of a satisfactory story/reason behind the "circle of 8" etc.
 
It occurred to me that if in Trek they still have belief of an afterlife, Soji now has to come to terms with the fact that she's immortal but if she's killed, she may not get an afterlife but just cease to exist. That'd throw anyone on a severe emotional bender. No wonder Data just kept his emotions chip off or removed towards the end of the film series.
 
(Rizzo wouldn't have killed Hugh if Agnes refused to take the tracker).

Agnes chewed the tracker, quite easily. At the time of Hugh's death, Agnes and crew were still being followed by Narek. It was later that she tried to kill herself and somehow (don't ask me how) that disabled the tracking.
 
If Agnes is not a cold blooded murderer and instead a tragic figure we are supposed to feel sorry for, can someone please explain to me why she gave her boyfriend a painful death? Surely there were other options to kill him with less pain? No?
 
I'm hoping now Agnes gets thrown into Rura Penthe for life or something. Unless they can prove the mind meld was mind control, she's getting far more sympathetic treatment than say, Barclay, despite the fact that she's a murderer. Probably because the character looks cute. Keep in mind her actions didn't just directly kill Maddox, but also led to the deaths of Hugh and all the other ex-Borgs (Rizzo wouldn't have killed Hugh if Agnes refused to take the tracker).

The closer we get to the finale the more it seems to me that the conclusion of all this will be a major let-down.
 
Agnes chewed the tracker, quite easily. At the time of Hugh's death, Agnes and crew were still being followed by Narek. It was later that she tried to kill herself and somehow (don't ask me how) that disabled the tracking.
At this point why didn't just Oh put trackers in the food of all of Picard's crew after saturating it with sugar and disguising it as candy?

Commodore Oh: Hi Admiral Picard, I'm sorry Clancy gave you such a hard time. Here, have a gummy targ.

Picard: Oh thank you! (munch munch) Yummy!

Commodore Oh: Hehehehe!
 
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